The internet is already over • Hacker News Board

Re: The internet is already over

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Post by Traubenfuchs » Wed, Sep 21, 2022, 2:20 PM UTC

daniel-cussen wrote: post #67

strken wrote: post #60

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Most people really are better than GPT-3. The bot writes incoherent rambling with flair and style; humans write poorly, but (usually) with some underlying goal that keeps them on track. GPT-3 output reminds me of the schizophrenia symptom called word salad, but slightly more coherent. It's trying to predict the next word, not achieve anything else, and the result is text that looks like it's going somewhere but never…

A second reply: I should get check out raw output from GPT-3. And you know it's not that bad with schizophrenics, I know many, I like them, I used to be secretly diagnosed (without my knowledge) of it. That's why they never told me about word salad, they didn't want me doing anything to mitigate it. There's other examples, here's one: like making huge leaps of thought. What's the term for this? I found out about it i…

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Re: The internet is already over

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Post by JohnFen » Thu, Sep 22, 2022, 5:33 PM UTC

mrkramer wrote: post #23

This article is akin to dot-com bubble mentality: "Internet sucks", "Internet is dead, move on" etc. but then Amazon, Google and Facebook rose, proved critics wrong and got mad rich doing it. If engagement and revenue is in decline for internet businesses that means nothing. There are always business cycles of expansion and retraction. The only thing that can kill internet is something better than the internet.

> Amazon, Google and Facebook rose, proved critics wrong

I disagree, but it probably depends on what it is that you value in the internet. In my view Amazon, Google, and Facebook are all large factors in why the internet sucks more now than ever.

Re: The internet is already over

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Post by sweetbitter » Fri, Sep 23, 2022, 1:01 AM UTC

throwaway787544 wrote: post #19

As long as clickbait drivel like this is upvoted, and advertising is legal, there will be internet. And after that, when we return to the primordial ooze of AOLs and Prodigys and CompuServes, and even before that to UseNet and BBSes, when there is barely a commercial entity left, but there is still a wire to shove weird binary non-euclydian poetry into, there will be internet. And even after, when illicit shortwave m…

I would love to get some reading recommendations from you that fuel this style of writing. Pretty please?

Re: The internet is already over

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Post by mrkramer » Tue, Sep 27, 2022, 9:49 PM UTC

JohnFen wrote: post #72

mrkramer wrote: post #23

This article is akin to dot-com bubble mentality: "Internet sucks", "Internet is dead, move on" etc. but then Amazon, Google and Facebook rose, proved critics wrong and got mad rich doing it. If engagement and revenue is in decline for internet businesses that means nothing. There are always business cycles of expansion and retraction. The only thing that can kill internet is something better than the internet.

> Amazon, Google and Facebook rose, proved critics wrong I disagree, but it probably depends on what it is that you value in the internet. In my view Amazon, Google, and Facebook are all large factors in why the internet sucks more now than ever.

I saw your comment only now but I wanted to say that I value free, reliable and somewhat satisfactory service that Amazon, Google and Facebook offer. They are not excellent but they get the job done. I'm aware that I'm trading my privacy for free service but there are no real alternatives to them or to their business model. That's why I stopped using Facebook 10 years ago before WhatsApp got popular now I only use WhatsApp, again Facebook's property but who cares at this point. I think the only viable competitor to them in the long term is decentralized crypto solution like blockchain and its smart contracts. But that stuff is far away from getting mature and widely accepted as means of commerce, communication and sharing of data and information.