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Re: Okta and Auth0 Blocking Cuba, Iran, N Korea, Syria, Crimea, Luhansk, Donetsk

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Post by Sebguer »

pixel16 wrote: post #59
Sebguer wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Florida's days of being a swing state will likely be over by the next presidential election. Desantis won by tight margins, but he seems to have done a great job attracting exactly the sort of people who'd vote for him to the state and has consistently worked to gerrymander and restrict voting rights for those who'd vote against him. Crist couldn't even beat Rick Scott for the Senate, and Scott was one of the least p…

Bill nelson ran against Rick scott not charlie christ.

Oh, right, sorry - Crist lost to Scott as governor years before that. I'll edit my post.

Re: Okta and Auth0 Blocking Cuba, Iran, N Korea, Syria, Crimea, Luhansk, Donetsk

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Post by thiagoharry »

arinlen wrote: post #54
imwillofficial wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“Cuba exports terrorism and misery across the region.” ::walks away whistling hoping you don’t notice Iraq and Afghanistan’s blown up weddings::

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_you_are_lynching_Negroes Feel free to start a discussion on US aggression, if you honestly feel strongly about it. Otherwise you're blatantly trying to whitewash decades of systematic oppression from totalitarian bloodthirsty regimes, and in the process support all the human rights violations they're continuously subjecting their population to.

Curious... Soviet union were completely right when criticizing US for lynching black people... But it is interesting how propaganda works... It's like nowadays when you point hypocrisy in the Internet, but people just yell "whataboutism" as a way to always ignore criticism and do not accept responsibility for double standards and hypocrisy in the propaganda that they spread. Of course, this happens only for criticism against US and the west, never against non-aligned countries. Nobody creates a wikipedia post about "And what about Stalin/Tiananmen Square/Whatever" trying to take away importance from criticism against communist countries calling it a "demagogical trick" like described in the above wikipedia page.

Re: Okta and Auth0 Blocking Cuba, Iran, N Korea, Syria, Crimea, Luhansk, Donetsk

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Post by tut-urut-utut »

antonyh wrote: post #70

My view on this from the United Kingdom: I have no vested interest in any of the territories listed nor do I support them in any way, but my business should not be subject to the whims of overseas powers and foreign policy. In response to this announcement I've closed down my Auth0 experiments. I refuse to be held to US enforcement when I operate outside US jurisdiction. I know other SaaS will follow suit, but we hav…

But isn't Auth0 a US-based company? In that case, they are obliged to implement US sanctions, regardless where their customers are located.

That applies of course to any US-based company, so in that case you would need to avoid touching anything that is based in the US. That may be possible in some cases, but if you rely on the third parties, it's almost inevitable to completely avoid US.

Re: Okta and Auth0 Blocking Cuba, Iran, N Korea, Syria, Crimea, Luhansk, Donetsk

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Post by jhugo »

locallost wrote: post #29
jhugo wrote: post #14

One thing I've always been curious about is why the opportunity created by this sort of thing doesn't seem to be taken advantage of. To take Iran as an example: when US sanctions prevent Boeing or Airbus from selling to them, I can understand why Embraer doesn't step in and offer to supply planes, because they are afraid of secondary sanctions affecting their business with the rest of the world. But tech isn't like a…

You don't even need to jump through this many hoops - somebody from Iran can just do it. And maybe they do, but overall I don't think the market is that big. All of these companies operate globally because it's otherwise difficult to make a profit. In other news, setting up businesses that go around US sanctions is not something the US will just wave off. Bullies don't accept their authority questioned.

> And maybe they do, but overall I don't think the market is that big.

Before Trump nixed the JCPoA, Iran had a firm order with Boeing for $16.6 billion worth of aircraft, and a firm order with Airbus for $25 billion worth of aircraft. Taken together, that's one of the largest aircraft orders of all time. Iran is not a small market.

> In other news, setting up businesses that go around US sanctions is not something the US will just wave off. Bullies don't accept their authority questioned.

Businesses in the UAE regularly trade with Iran (and Russia, for that matter) in the normal course of business.

Re: Okta and Auth0 Blocking Cuba, Iran, N Korea, Syria, Crimea, Luhansk, Donetsk

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Post by thriftwy »

arinlen wrote: post #54
imwillofficial wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“Cuba exports terrorism and misery across the region.” ::walks away whistling hoping you don’t notice Iraq and Afghanistan’s blown up weddings::

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_you_are_lynching_Negroes Feel free to start a discussion on US aggression, if you honestly feel strongly about it. Otherwise you're blatantly trying to whitewash decades of systematic oppression from totalitarian bloodthirsty regimes, and in the process support all the human rights violations they're continuously subjecting their population to.

That's a very nice link. It took around 40 years for the USA to even get to that level of self-awareness to have BLM.

Think about it, Soviet Union was not just knowing what you did last summer; it knew what you would be doing a summer 40 years from back then.

Re: Okta and Auth0 Blocking Cuba, Iran, N Korea, Syria, Crimea, Luhansk, Donetsk

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Post by qwerty456127 »

pjc50 wrote: post #69
qwerty456127 wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Automated enforcement is evil and must be banned (except in situations when the violations themselves mostly are automated and come in unbearably huge quantities).

Banning automated enforcement is also the end of free and maybe even cheap services on the Internet.

Okay, I don't mind.

I am not rich but I would agree to double and triple on my internet subscription if the Internet would be made significantly better (scarce and exclusively curated non-intrusive ads, no tracking, no DRMs, no forced/nudged "engagement", no automated enforcement, no paywalls, everything easy to download and or syndicate, etc.).

In fact I would already pay Google and Facebook if they would seriously stop treating me as a product and would consider me a client whom they would act in best interest of. Yet they don't even offer, even those who actually pay them get blackholed routinely.

I understand there are poor countries where people really can't pay so I don't insist the business model has to change for everybody everywhere.

Re: Okta and Auth0 Blocking Cuba, Iran, N Korea, Syria, Crimea, Luhansk, Donetsk

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Post by nix23 »

pessimizer wrote: post #33
ClumsyPilot wrote: post #12

Oh, nice, my company is just integrating Okta. Is Cuba still being punished for daring to host Soviet missiles? I think the way we've treated them is really terrible.

It's vitally important that America defends Batista, the Czar, and the Shah.

It's called nation-building!!! The thing the CIA is best at, but still fail every single time ;)

Re: Okta and Auth0 Blocking Cuba, Iran, N Korea, Syria, Crimea, Luhansk, Donetsk

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Post by thriftwy »

arinlen wrote: post #62
Sebguer wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cuba's biggest export is effectively doctors. But, sure, buy into decades old anti-communist propaganda!

> Cuba's biggest export is effectively doctors. I find it highly amusing how "exporting people" is suddenly portrayed as being an achievement, as if being exploited as an indentured servant is something praiseworthy in the 21st century. In other contexts this is referred to as human trafficking and exploitation, but being Cuba this is suddenly something to brag about? I lived in a country where the national health se…

> is suddenly portrayed as being an achievement

It's not an achievement.

It's a sign of how hard the USA-based bullying had come so that a country cannot export goods or services so it has to export people.

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