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iPhone 14 Pro Camera Review: Scotland

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Re: iPhone 14 Pro Camera Review: Scotland

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Post by aikinai »

t0bia_s wrote: post #56

I though era of "more megapixel = better picture" is gone, but apparently not. All that matters in technical quality of cameras is dynamic range. That is related to sensor size, more specific to pixel size that has ability to absorb light. It is simple physics. Those who need camera sensor quality should check this charts: https://www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm

I would agree with you, but read about what they’re actually doing with this camera.

They’re actually binning the pixels back down to the same resolution as before and only using the extra size to enhance sharpness and dynamic range. You only actually get higher resolution if you shoot raw.

Re: iPhone 14 Pro Camera Review: Scotland

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Post by Gigachad »

tempofinale wrote: post #67
Gigachad wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You probably wouldn't want to use an iphone for a bike computer anyway. The vibrations of being mounted to handle bars can apparently damage the cameras. Much better to just spend a small amount on an actual bike computer, these days they all connect to apps on your phone can can make use of real maps navigation and show notifications from your phone.

Why not just get a cheap $20 dollar android? That's what I usually see food delivery drivers use.

Depends if you are delivering food or cycling for sport. The dedicated devices have extremely good battery life (around 20 hours screen on with gps), have connectivity for ANT+ accessories, have large physical buttons designed for use while cycling with gloves, have reflective displays with great visibility in the sun, etc.

Sure, you don’t _need_ them but they don’t cost very much compared to your other gear and the minor improvements stack up.

Re: iPhone 14 Pro Camera Review: Scotland

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Post by gnicholas »

julienb_sea wrote: post #53

I'm really conflicted about if I'm going to be shooting in 48MP or 12MP for normal use. Most of my photos are taken of friends in casual settings and used for social media. Many times a good shot requires capturing a number of photos in sequence, with all but one or two discarded. The local file storage and backup capacity requirements for 48MP are going to get crazy. I may only shoot in 48MP in rare cases when I rea…

Yeah I wish there was an easy way to automatically delete all but 1 or 2 of the shots from a set. Kind of like how they let you easily discard all but one of a burst.

Re: iPhone 14 Pro Camera Review: Scotland

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Post by roberttod »

stanislavb wrote: post #57

It's good that he's highlighting the potential issues with the eSim. To me, forcing every new iPhone user to go all-in with eSim is ridiculous. That will work for many, yet it could be a painful issue for some. Given that they still sell iPhone 14 with regular SIM cards, why wouldn't they allow that option in the US ¯\_(ツ)_/¯!?

I recently tried buying an esim while travelling to Sweden because I always forget to buy one at the airport, or in advance. It actually worked out very well, and it was nice not to have to swap out my existing sim and take on a new phone number across all the messaging apps while I was there.

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Post by thebradbain »

gordon_freeman wrote: post #14
n8cpdx wrote: post #9

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Coming from a still enthusiastic tech person who loves iPhone, I don’t think it’s a you problem. This is clearly another S revision in all but name, for the second year in a row. I want to be excited but there’s nothing particularly compelling unless you’re coming from pre-2020 (or maybe pre-2019). I’m still loving my 12 mini and will probably use it for at least another year, maybe two. Compelling upgrades would be:…

I have iPhone 11 and I still don't think it is worth upgrading to 14 or 14Pro yet. I consider myself tech savvy person but I don't see a point to buy a new phone if my current phone takes good enough pics for myself and my family and friends to enjoy. Also if the speed of browsing web and opening and using apps is still good enough then what's the point of buying a new phone and polluting environment? As I see it, th…

How are you able to make your battery last so long? I have an iPhone 12, and up until 6 months ago the battery was easily making it through the end of the day, but now with the same usage pattern I’m charging by noon.

That’s the only reason I’m excited for the 14

Re: iPhone 14 Pro Camera Review: Scotland

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Post by gnicholas »

ahepp wrote: post #5
iLoveOncall wrote: post #2

Quite impressive when they shot at 48MP, but the pictures taken at 12MP just look like your bad, few generations old, non-pro iPhone photo. As a very amateur photograph that doesn't want to carry his DSLR all the time I considered getting it for the 48MP but after reading the review and seeing what would be most of the pictures I would take (the 12MP ones), it's a hard pass.

I'm upgrading my iPhone 13 mini because having switched from a Pixel 4a, the camera performance is just unacceptably bad. It's a testament to how much I like the rest of the iPhone that I didn't just go back to the pixel. I briefly considered carrying the Pixel around just to take pictures.

Huh wow, I have a 13 mini and love the camera. It’s a bit better than my 11 Pro, especially in low light, and I had no complaints about that camera when it was my main phone.

What’s not to like about the camera on the 13?

Re: iPhone 14 Pro Camera Review: Scotland

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Post by GeekyBear »

stanislavb wrote: post #57

It's good that he's highlighting the potential issues with the eSim. To me, forcing every new iPhone user to go all-in with eSim is ridiculous. That will work for many, yet it could be a painful issue for some. Given that they still sell iPhone 14 with regular SIM cards, why wouldn't they allow that option in the US ¯\_(ツ)_/¯!?

If you wait for the carriers to do something as consumer friendly as supporting eSIMs, you're in for a very long wait.

It's not in their best interests to allow friction free price shopping.

Re: iPhone 14 Pro Camera Review: Scotland

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Post by rexf »

I have the iPhone 13 Pro, and I wish Apple would fix the Live Photos video flash bug https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/live-photo-flashing-exp...

This is a first world problem: the flash that appears in their flagship Live Photos photo/video feature has ruined some great vacation photos that were hard to take.

I don't know if this is fixed in the iPhone 14 / iOS 16.

Re: iPhone 14 Pro Camera Review: Scotland

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Post by trevor-e »

stanislavb wrote: post #57

It's good that he's highlighting the potential issues with the eSim. To me, forcing every new iPhone user to go all-in with eSim is ridiculous. That will work for many, yet it could be a painful issue for some. Given that they still sell iPhone 14 with regular SIM cards, why wouldn't they allow that option in the US ¯\_(ツ)_/¯!?

It will be painful for an incredibly tiny number of people, and vastly superior for basically everyone else. Plus, it frees up valuable physical space inside the phone.

another counterpoint: I just got back from a trip in Europe and had to swap my sim card back when we landed. I forgot to ask for the small (and easily losable) tool they give you to pop open the tray, but luckily my SO had an earring that was able to fit.

Re: iPhone 14 Pro Camera Review: Scotland

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Post by gst »

californical wrote: post #69
gst wrote: post #33

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> but as a digital simulation from 1x and thereby only at 12MP, and so it isn't fundamentally different than my existing phone My understanding is that it's even worse than that, as the 48MP sensor isn't a regular sensor but a Quad Bayer sensor. While there are some benefits over a 12MP sensor, based on what I've read it seems that the image quality is more comparable to a 12MP sensor than to a 48MP sensor. So croppi…

That’s how MP are always defined, as far as I know. If you buy a DSLR/Mirrorless camera with a 24MP sensor, there aren’t 24 million R,G,B pixels, but closer to 6 million Red, 12 million Green, and 6 million Blue. So if that’s how the iPhone is doing their 48MP sensor, then that’s just standard

It's different on the 48MP Quad Bayer iPhone sensor:

Instead of something like RGBRGBRGB for the subpixels the subpixels are layed out as RRGGBBRRGGBB (in both dimensions). So while those additional subpixels provide some additional information (either brightness information or a different exposure time for HDR) in terms of color information the sensor would still be pretty much limited to 12MP. Based on the reviews that I read in the past Quad Bayer sensors seem marginally better than comparable regular sensors (48MP Quad Bayer vs 12MP regular), but nowhere near as good as the MP number makes them look like.

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