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Re: Forum Channels: A space for organized conversations

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Post by danr4 »

spankalee wrote: post #28

My OSS Project (Lit - at https://lit.dev ) just moved our community chat from Slack to Discord[1] and we couldn't be happier right now. one of the main reasons is the velocity that Discord is moving to add useful community oriented features like this. Assuming this means that Forum Channels are GA now, we're going to us them for our #ask-for-help channel to make them more organized and searchable. I think it's a grea…

The velocity????? Discord’s product has barely changed, they move so slow, but thanks to their market dominance no one has been able to compete

Re: Forum Channels: A space for organized conversations

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Post by GekkePrutser »

mjr00 wrote: post #59
aliqot wrote: post #3

Are they searchable and indexable? What made PHPBB and all that cool was that it'd turn up in search queries. As a hobbyist, this was an incredible wealth of information for me that has mostly dried up with the advent of walled gardens like slack, discord, etc. Some might point at BBS and IRC and say that those were the same, but I'd argue that they had lower volume, and less rich media, and I'd go one further to say…

On the modern internet, I don't know that being searchable and indexed is always a benefit. I like the idea of a semi-private space. I don't want people on the internet to be able to drudge up out of context statements I made 10 years ago by googling "site:discord.com ". I can tell a lot of people are the same way just by their behavior; the discussion that happens on Discord is a lot different than anything on, say,…

> Discussion that happens on public forums usually sounds like everyone's at a job interview getting scrutinized by a potential employer. Which, in fairness, they effectively are.

Maybe if you use forums with a real name policy? I wouldn't give prospective employers all my nicknames :)

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Post by babypuncher »

moepstar wrote: post #5

I wonder why information-heavy communities chose "knowledge storage" in the form of Discord. Example: i'm looking to build a PrintNC - they've got a really good Wiki, however with all the options i'm a tiny bit overwhelmed, especially since for newcomers like me, there's so much to wrap my head around... Anyways, if i could look up the answers to my questions very probably someone has asked before on a forum, i would…

Discord has a low barrier to entry and continued use.

With a single account, I can join a dozen communities and easily stay up to date with them, and get an instant notification on my phone or desktop when someone answers a question I asked in any of them.

To do the same with a dozen phpbb communities, I need to create a dozen accounts and track each site individually.

Re: Forum Channels: A space for organized conversations

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Post by kbyatnal »

aliqot wrote: post #3

Are they searchable and indexable? What made PHPBB and all that cool was that it'd turn up in search queries. As a hobbyist, this was an incredible wealth of information for me that has mostly dried up with the advent of walled gardens like slack, discord, etc. Some might point at BBS and IRC and say that those were the same, but I'd argue that they had lower volume, and less rich media, and I'd go one further to say…

I totally agree - I find myself missing the Google discussions filter (if you remember what that was?) very often. It would let you search only across forums, message boards, and other places where actual discussions where taking place (as opposed to SEO and blog spam).

I actually built a small tool for myself to try and replicate this. It searches across a few discords, a curated index of forums and message boards, and a little bit of Twitter (while applying some advance parameters to filter out the marketing spam). Works pretty well!

If anyone else wants to give it a go (desktop only for now): https://crew-rho.vercel.app

(the forum search takes a little bit of time to load, but you'll see it if you scroll down)

Re: Forum Channels: A space for organized conversations

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Post by softfalcon »

GekkePrutser wrote: post #73
mjr00 wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the modern internet, I don't know that being searchable and indexed is always a benefit. I like the idea of a semi-private space. I don't want people on the internet to be able to drudge up out of context statements I made 10 years ago by googling "site:discord.com ". I can tell a lot of people are the same way just by their behavior; the discussion that happens on Discord is a lot different than anything on, say,…

> Discussion that happens on public forums usually sounds like everyone's at a job interview getting scrutinized by a potential employer. Which, in fairness, they effectively are. Maybe if you use forums with a real name policy? I wouldn't give prospective employers all my nicknames :)

Unfortunately there are whole services offered to find said nicknames and tie the crap back to your real name. Frequently used for high profile job positions and their “background” checks.

Re: Forum Channels: A space for organized conversations

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Post by GekkePrutser »

nemothekid wrote: post #53
whateveracct wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems so - although forums also seem to gravitate towards slightly more self-hosted than Discord. Which is a feature in a way - own the domain and build something real. Discord basically won because of style over substance. I use it plenty because I don't have a choice. But there's nothing actually good about it besides the VC money they poured into going to market and branding.

> Discord basically won because of style over substance. I use it plenty because I don't have a choice. This is incredibly reductive. You don't use it because "you don't have a choice", you use it because it's the best. If there was another option out there people would use it. There are plenty of choices out there; you go set up a self-hosted phpBB forum; try to maintain a live community on there; and moderate it. O…

> This is incredibly reductive. You don't use it because "you don't have a choice", you use it because it's the best.

Not always. I hate discord with a passion because I don't want to be data mined by some corporate walled garden. Unfortunately some open source projects have taken the decision to use it so I have to in order to communicate with them. Home Assistant being the most notable one for me.

It's a really poor choice for this IMO, matrix is so much better and you can use any client you want.

Re: Forum Channels: A space for organized conversations

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Post by fny »

aliqot wrote: post #3

Are they searchable and indexable? What made PHPBB and all that cool was that it'd turn up in search queries. As a hobbyist, this was an incredible wealth of information for me that has mostly dried up with the advent of walled gardens like slack, discord, etc. Some might point at BBS and IRC and say that those were the same, but I'd argue that they had lower volume, and less rich media, and I'd go one further to say…

PHPBB:Reddit::AIM:Discord

The name of the app is Discord for crying out loud. Have you seen the kinds of things people are using it for? Discord is *wildly* hackable chat, not forum software. There's tons of crap being slung around on Discord that doesn't deserve to be archived because that's not the purpose.

Is IRC indexable or searchable? No. Usenet served that purpose. People hacked in query bots to IRC. At least Discord comes with built in search.

If you want a forum, go use forum software.

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