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An extrasolar world covered in water?

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Re: An extrasolar world covered in water?

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Programming machines to make the trip and then seeding with human life seems to be the best answer to distance.

That would be so interesting - could be many a sci-fi stories created on that premise. Some mechanical robot/starship storing frozen embryos for 100 years to be released on a far-away exoplanet, the starship taking care of them while they grow up and learn how to live on this new world - the beginnings of a new civilization - a technological adam and eve of sorts.

I feel like the reverse situation kinda writes itself as a sci-fi horror short story:

You've got people living their every day lives, when a probe from space lands and starts producing aliens. At first it's treated as a strange curiosity, but with time the aliens begin to make inroads conquering the planet. Ending twist: the aliens are humans, and the "people" were aliens!

Re: An extrasolar world covered in water?

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You know you're awake because reality has continuity and makes sense. Conversely, dreams are fragmented and implausible. You can train yourself to check this to lucid dream (become aware that you are dreaming).

Yes you can sometimes do that (I've lucid dreamed quite a few times before and it's pretty wild), but it's nowhere near 100% reliable. you can get pretty good with practice, but even then it's not a scientific test. It's more of a process of reasoning and gut checking. The human mind can fill in an incredible amount of detail when needed. In one lucid dream I was playing a song on the guitar that I had (as far as I k…

>it's not a scientific test.

Isn't every subjective experience, almost by definition, unable to be tested scientifically?

We can objectively measure someone's brain activity during sleep, but we can't really measure their subjective experience. Implying that everything made up of subjective experience (like consciousness) can't be measured. Which also implies it can't be proven by scientific means. So in response to the GP comment, I'm not sure we can "know you're awake" (in the scientific sense, at least).

Re: An extrasolar world covered in water?

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That would be so interesting - could be many a sci-fi stories created on that premise. Some mechanical robot/starship storing frozen embryos for 100 years to be released on a far-away exoplanet, the starship taking care of them while they grow up and learn how to live on this new world - the beginnings of a new civilization - a technological adam and eve of sorts.

Raised by wolves

But hopefully the story would actually be interesting

Re: An extrasolar world covered in water?

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"merely a planet", it's sad that the thing that gives everything life and beauty and wonder can be so easily dismissed nowadays...

Only planet with Life. I sometimes wish people ponder on that for some time. Maybe they will have a new found respect for this planet like I did. Took me a while but when I fully grasped the concept of Life few years back and read and saw all the life less rocks in our solar system it changed the way I look at things. Still amazes me when I think about it.

I only find it amazing the way any other low probability event would be amazing. Nothing more. Like finding a collision between two GUIDs or something

Re: An extrasolar world covered in water?

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We can’t do lightspeed with the best tech available, so it’s more like 300-400 years probably.

Don't have to go light speed, thanks to relativity. If we could achieve and sustain even 1G acceleration, live humans could make the 100LY trip in approx. 9 years (spaceship time). You could leave, visit the planet, and come back only 18 years older and tell the next-next-next-next-next generation all about it. EDIT: To be fair, 1G over 100LY will result in a maximum speed around 0.9998c so I guess you would have to…

Better stock up on antimatter.

Re: An extrasolar world covered in water?

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Yes you can sometimes do that (I've lucid dreamed quite a few times before and it's pretty wild), but it's nowhere near 100% reliable. you can get pretty good with practice, but even then it's not a scientific test. It's more of a process of reasoning and gut checking. The human mind can fill in an incredible amount of detail when needed. In one lucid dream I was playing a song on the guitar that I had (as far as I k…

> it's not a scientific test. Isn't every subjective experience, almost by definition, unable to be tested scientifically? We can objectively measure someone's brain activity during sleep, but we can't really measure their subjective experience. Implying that everything made up of subjective experience (like consciousness) can't be measured. Which also implies it can't be proven by scientific means. So in response to…

I'm pretty sure what you're describing is the hard problem of consciousness.

Re: An extrasolar world covered in water?

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Programming machines to make the trip and then seeding with human life seems to be the best answer to distance.

That would be so interesting - could be many a sci-fi stories created on that premise. Some mechanical robot/starship storing frozen embryos for 100 years to be released on a far-away exoplanet, the starship taking care of them while they grow up and learn how to live on this new world - the beginnings of a new civilization - a technological adam and eve of sorts.

http://localroger.com/k5host/pitv.html is my favorite take on this

Re: An extrasolar world covered in water?

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That would be so interesting - could be many a sci-fi stories created on that premise. Some mechanical robot/starship storing frozen embryos for 100 years to be released on a far-away exoplanet, the starship taking care of them while they grow up and learn how to live on this new world - the beginnings of a new civilization - a technological adam and eve of sorts.

I feel like the reverse situation kinda writes itself as a sci-fi horror short story: You've got people living their every day lives, when a probe from space lands and starts producing aliens. At first it's treated as a strange curiosity, but with time the aliens begin to make inroads conquering the planet. Ending twist: the aliens are humans, and the "people" were aliens!

"And All The Stars, A Stage", by James Blish.
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