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American chestnut tree in Centreville is the 'holy grail' for conservationists

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Re: American chestnut tree in Centreville is the 'holy grail' for conservationists

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The article misstates > There used to be about 4 million American chestnut trees in eastern U.S. forests, until chestnut blight (Cryphonectria parasitica) arrived […] The number is closer to 4 billion with a B[1] Their range was across eastern North America and I’ve read estimates that they may have been a quarter to a third of the trees in those forests before the blight arrived. 1 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Am…

As of 23:16 UTC, the article says 4 billion.

Thousands of eyes!

Re: American chestnut tree in Centreville is the 'holy grail' for conservationists

#72
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There is one in North Bergen, NJ. I won't say where. They can find it themselves!

It's okay, it's very unlikely that it's not a hybrid.

I have one that's not a hybrid. It's a stressed tree in blight range (Hunterdon, NJ) but it soldiers on. Last year I got a few dozen chestnuts off of it. Normally I can only get a few.

(I also have two seedlings sprouted from chestnuts I gathered a few years back)

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#73

If this interests you, I highly recommend the novel "Overstory", which was a pulitzer prize winner in the last few years. It's a fictional collection of stories, all linked by trees (it makes sense if you've read it). Beautifully written, and gave me a huge appreciation for trees.

Yup, same recommendation. That was my first time even hearing about this massive, landscape shifting chestnut blight; I have no idea how it isn't now commonly known.

And it was just a really great story in general. Definitely recommend.

Re: American chestnut tree in Centreville is the 'holy grail' for conservationists

#74
post #11

If this tree had a secret to cultivating a resistant strain that would be very awesome. Is there a good app which lets you input your zip code, maybe also sun exposure and soil conditions, how many feet of width and height you have available, and then where it will spit out a list of well-suited tree specimens with some nice pictures of each?

Why stop at trees? I imagine you could do an alternate reality app for landscaping that shows you what your landscape "could look like". Including flower beds, ground cover alternatives to grass, etc.

I’ve wanted such an app for years. Ideally with a slider showing stages of growth, watering schedules, generating optimal planting patterns and figuring out plant counts.

Of course one-click ordering wouldn’t hurt, but I like to imagine you would still print out a shopping list and head over to the local nursery.

Re: American chestnut tree in Centreville is the 'holy grail' for conservationists

#75

How can they all die so fast and sudden? Wouldn't we expect a certain % to have some immunity, and then those genes pass on and the population eventually recovers?

Plant immune systems aren't as adaptive as ours, and the American chestnut had no reason to evolve any immunity to the blight because it wasn't present on the continent until the early 1900s.

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post #11

If this tree had a secret to cultivating a resistant strain that would be very awesome. Is there a good app which lets you input your zip code, maybe also sun exposure and soil conditions, how many feet of width and height you have available, and then where it will spit out a list of well-suited tree specimens with some nice pictures of each?

A walk around the block looking at what grows is another option. Seedling and seed from those trees tend to do well.

Yep or even better sneak off some cuttings!

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#77
post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good question. I'd imagine something like blight resistance would probably not be a simple case of a few specific genes we can just switch over. It could also just be technology. This breeding program has been around for 50 years or so and CRISPR only really took off around 2011. In addition, the original CRISPR-Ca9 caused a lot of unintended changes in DNA and it's really critical that the new trees are morphologica…

It actually is pretty "simple" in this case (the tree needs to produce a single chemical, oxalate oxidase). There is a program that has done this very successfully, and it just working through the regulatory process before wider distribution can happen. They have thousands of trees in (controlled) forest plots, including three generations of offspring.

That's very interesting. The video I linked showed that blight resistant trees had a very specific response to grow extra tissue around the infection site to stop it from spreading further so I assumed it was more of a multi-pronged defense

Re: American chestnut tree in Centreville is the 'holy grail' for conservationists

#78

Has anyone heard anything about the Darling 58 genetically modified American Chestnut that is resistant to the blight? Last I heard the USDA was reviewing it for approval to sell.

Still being reviewed… They have thousands of trees planted, and have had at least three generations of trees in the “wild” (in very controlled plots). There has been a lot of fort going in to introducing more diversity into the Darling 58 variety, with pollen from a wide range of American Chestnut populations being used to make the next generation.

Here’s the 2021 update for the program: https://www.esf.edu/chestnut/progress-report/2021.htm

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#79

I often wonder how different the Blue Ridge mountains looked 100 years ago, with the American Chestnut and various other trees that different forms of blight have since killed. It’s kind of sad visiting Clingman’s Dome or Mt. Mitchell, where you can see the skeletons of all the dead trees.

Pretty sure the dead trees on Clingman's Dome are from the woolly adelgid.

Re: American chestnut tree in Centreville is the 'holy grail' for conservationists

#80

How can they all die so fast and sudden? Wouldn't we expect a certain % to have some immunity, and then those genes pass on and the population eventually recovers?

I read in the book "American Chestnut, The Life, Death, and Rebirth of a Perfect Tree" by Susan Freinkel that when the blight was first discovered in the early 1900's scientists thought that cutting down chestnut trees in the east would stop the blight from spreading. Many trees were cut down that might have had some level of resistance to the blight.
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