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Removal of Heroku free product plans

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Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

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Post by TKAB »

cmg wrote: post #3

> Starting October 26, 2022, we will begin deleting inactive accounts and associated storage for accounts that have been inactive for over a year. Starting November 28, 2022, we plan to stop offering free product plans and plan to start shutting down free dynos and data services. We will be sending out a series of email communications to affected users. Sad to see this, but not surprised after the Salesforce purchase…

I've found https://dokku.com to be a great (self-hosted) alternative to heroku. For hobby and small company size a cheap root server will do great. I've been running one at Hetzner for ~5EUR/month for more than a year now and had a very smooth experience.

Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

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Post by solidsnack9000 »

cfiggers wrote: post #57

Speaking as a pure hobbyist with no formal background in programming or computer science, I've learned a ton playing around with free Heroku dynos. That "holy shit, it worked" feeling is a hell of a drug. My proudest achievement so far is a dumb-as-rocks little Clojure program that runs on a schedule in a free Heroku dyno. It sends alerts to a Slack channel when there's updates to a Trello board we use at work. All i…

Well, it's worth asking, how long something like this could remain free. Even that six or seven seconds costs somebody something.

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Post by TheRealDunkirk »

cfiggers wrote: post #57

Speaking as a pure hobbyist with no formal background in programming or computer science, I've learned a ton playing around with free Heroku dynos. That "holy shit, it worked" feeling is a hell of a drug. My proudest achievement so far is a dumb-as-rocks little Clojure program that runs on a schedule in a free Heroku dyno. It sends alerts to a Slack channel when there's updates to a Trello board we use at work. All i…

You'd think a company the size of Salesforce would have the long-range vision to use a tiny fraction of their resources to capture developer "goodwill" from projects just like this. But apparently you'd be wrong.

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Post by fooey »

ghiculescu wrote: post #66
craigkerstiens wrote: post #17

This is a sad day. Pricing changes are always hard, and having been through some of the earlier pricing changes at Heroku you can't make everyone happy. But, so many developers deployed their first app on Heroku and was a staple for so many bootcamps. Without it I'm confident we'd have less developers in the world. It is still one of the gold standards for developer experience. Years after its heyday companies and to…

Why do you think nobody has been able to fully emulate this experience? It seems to me like there’d be a big market for an identical feature by feature Heroku “clone” with a more dedicated (from the outside looking in) team. No more features, no less, just exactly what Heroku did but without the intent to shut down. What’s preventing that from existing?

I've been very happy with CloudFlare Pages, and I hear good things about Vercel, but those aren't as expansive as Heroku (yet?)

Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

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Post by craigkerstiens »

ghiculescu wrote: post #66
craigkerstiens wrote: post #17

This is a sad day. Pricing changes are always hard, and having been through some of the earlier pricing changes at Heroku you can't make everyone happy. But, so many developers deployed their first app on Heroku and was a staple for so many bootcamps. Without it I'm confident we'd have less developers in the world. It is still one of the gold standards for developer experience. Years after its heyday companies and to…

Why do you think nobody has been able to fully emulate this experience? It seems to me like there’d be a big market for an identical feature by feature Heroku “clone” with a more dedicated (from the outside looking in) team. No more features, no less, just exactly what Heroku did but without the intent to shut down. What’s preventing that from existing?

There are some that have emulated it, but the team that was there and created Heroku cared deeply about developer experience. When you just "clone" that you miss pieces, one PM friend that I worked with at Heroku called them papercuts. We would obsess over such things and the quality of something being shipped.

Even now if you emulate that it's one thing, but Heroku has been frozen in time for at least the last 5 years, maybe closer to 7-8 years. There was more to do and more to improve and advance, and it stalled out for reasons. Now just being a clone wouldn't be enough you need to continue advancing the experience.

Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

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Post by countspongebob »

evtothedev wrote: post #55

Does anyone else find the roadmap to be really uninspiring? Every tasks seems either like housekeeping ("Migrate from Github OAuth to Github App Model") or like far-too-late table stakes ("Support HTTP/2"). What am I supposed to get inspired about on this page? For items that look like they ?might? be exciting, they seem hidden behind vagueness: "Official Cloud Native Buildpacks for Heroku languages" Contrast this wi…

Could you jump in on the cloud native buildpack issue above and ask for clarification? Goal of the public roadmap is to gather input and feedback and make it better.

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Post by vagabund »

craigkerstiens wrote: post #17

This is a sad day. Pricing changes are always hard, and having been through some of the earlier pricing changes at Heroku you can't make everyone happy. But, so many developers deployed their first app on Heroku and was a staple for so many bootcamps. Without it I'm confident we'd have less developers in the world. It is still one of the gold standards for developer experience. Years after its heyday companies and to…

It's worth mentioning there's a very vibrant piracy community that abuses heroku's free tier for torrent to direct-download bots and myriad other purposes. Thousands and thousands of fake accounts using the resources to their limits 24/7. It's likely also the reason Google's moved away from unlimited storage for educational institutions. I can understand why Salesforce has felt the need to restrict access.

Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

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Post by bradgessler »

aarondf wrote: post #15

Fly.io has a dedicated process for moving off of Heroku. Auth via Heroku and they'll launch your app onto Fly. They also have a free tier. The process: https://fly.io/launch/heroku The docs: https://fly.io/docs/app-guides/speed-up-a-heroku-app I haven't used it [the Heroku -> Fly process] myself, but it's been around for quite some time!

Please let me know in the replies what you'd like to see at Fly that would make it as good, if not better, than Heroku. I recently started working at Fly to focus on making Rails & Ruby app deployments awesome, and of course Heroku set that benchmark almost a decade ago. I can't promise I'll get to everything, but I can promise that it will help me better prioritize what I should be focusing on to make Fly better for ya'll.
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