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Seven years later, Apple was right to kill off the 3.5mm headphone jack

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Re: Seven years later, Apple was right to kill off the 3.5mm headphone jack

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Post by 57FkMytWjyFu »

joshstrange wrote: post #25

Wired headphones suck for 90%+ of the population. We can talk about the cost of AirPods but they are objectively better in most all situations. I was a hold-out on the AirPods having using bluetooth headphones before and hated them but I got AirPods as a gift and almost immediately fell in love. Way easier to carry (no tangled wires, and yes, I knew how to wind them up but that wasn't always foolproof), super easy to…

Show your sources for that 90 percent claim. You're not having a good faith discussion, and emotion is making (or losing!) your argument.

Maybe ask yourself why you're so unwilling to be wrong?

Perhaps sunk cost fallacy?

Re: Seven years later, Apple was right to kill off the 3.5mm headphone jack

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Post by mmh0000 »

kazinator wrote: post #65
joshstrange wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> 1: I do not wish to charge my headphones. Then use the dongle > 2: I have many headphones with higher quality sound than earbuds can provide. Then use the dongle > 3: Bluetooth still kinda sucks, even after all this time. Then use the dongle > 4: Bluetooth is subject to denial of service, security concerns. Ok suuurrreee, then use the dongle > 5: Apple's purpose with the decision was to increase revenue, that is al…

How do you use the dongle while charging your phone in a car, while jacking out to a 3.5mm aux input?

By spending 1 minute seaching Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07NZMMTKW

Re: Seven years later, Apple was right to kill off the 3.5mm headphone jack

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Post by apohak »

mmh0000 wrote: post #72
kazinator wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you use the dongle while charging your phone in a car, while jacking out to a 3.5mm aux input?

By spending 1 minute seaching Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07NZMMTKW

How about buying a phone that doesn't require me to buy adapters?

Re: Seven years later, Apple was right to kill off the 3.5mm headphone jack

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Post by LargoLasskhyfv »

dev_tty01 wrote: post #60
dmz73 wrote: post #46

Apple charges more for less and their users line up to pay instead of walking away. As long as this keeps happening, Apple will keep taking away and gouging their users. People are stupid and gullible so I think Apple is doing the right thing here - fleece the sheep while they keep coming. The main downside is that other companies observe this behaviour and try to emulate it but that doesn't work because people who a…

So, I guess there is no possibility that their hundreds of millions of customers recognize that they are paying more for more? I guess all of us are just idiots. Markets don't work that way. Over time unsatisfied customers change the market dynamic. That hasn't happened. Perhaps you should reevaluate your criteria for determining "more" and "less" in terms of product value to the consumer.

Markets work by way of hype. Among that artificially creating the impression of wanted hotness, by hiring student extras camping in front of the store, which opens the next day.

Re: Seven years later, Apple was right to kill off the 3.5mm headphone jack

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Post by mmh0000 »

apohak wrote: post #73
mmh0000 wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By spending 1 minute seaching Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07NZMMTKW

How about buying a phone that doesn't require me to buy adapters?

Why would I want to settle for a substandard phone?

/s

Re: Seven years later, Apple was right to kill off the 3.5mm headphone jack

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Post by dhab »

joshstrange wrote: post #43
glennvtx wrote: post #20

1: I do not wish to charge my headphones. 2: I have many headphones with higher quality sound than earbuds can provide. 3: Bluetooth still kinda sucks, even after all this time. 4: Bluetooth is subject to denial of service, security concerns. 5: Apple's purpose with the decision was to increase revenue, that is all. You all are now paying $$$ for headphones with batteries, etc. onboard, and they no longer had to impl…

> 1: I do not wish to charge my headphones. Then use the dongle > 2: I have many headphones with higher quality sound than earbuds can provide. Then use the dongle > 3: Bluetooth still kinda sucks, even after all this time. Then use the dongle > 4: Bluetooth is subject to denial of service, security concerns. Ok suuurrreee, then use the dongle > 5: Apple's purpose with the decision was to increase revenue, that is al…

That’s a poor solution. I’ve used the dongle and the failing mechanical parts (twist of the cables, Bulkiness etc) make it unreliable.

Re: Seven years later, Apple was right to kill off the 3.5mm headphone jack

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Post by tanseydavid »

tzs wrote: post #70
tanseydavid wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a subjective matter. Calling it bullshit is not an accurate way of looking at it (or listening to it). There are use cases for audio where "good enough" is simply not sufficient. You may never have need for these use cases.

But in those cases you wouldn't want to use a 3.5 mm headphone jack even if your phone or computer had one. You'd want to use a digital interface such as Lightning or USB. Music on a phone or computer is digital. To get analog output for the headphone jack the device includes a DAC to convert that digital audio to analog and probably analog amplifiers to get the analog signal to the right level. The quality of the DA…

I know what my use cases are. Why do you keep trying to tell me what I want or need?
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