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Re: Protonmail Recommended Browsers

#71

I was until recently using protonmail for throwaway email addresses for various web forums as it allowed a captcha verification during creation. Every other one I'd tried demands SMS verification these days, which is right out. But proton mail recently changed and requires SMS or another email now, I believe they say it is to combat bots. I tried tutanota but it refuses to create an account at all over a VPN, or at l…

If it’s really a throwaway (just a one time use for creating an account), I simply use 10minutemail.com

Re: Protonmail Recommended Browsers

#72

Why do privacy folks recommend Brave? Isn't Brave a commercial, ad serving entity?

Disclaimer: I do consulting work for Brave. Opinions my own. Maintaining a browser is a huge amount of work. The web evolves constantly and security fixes are extremely important. Being competitive in the space requires a very large amount of engineering resources. A commercial entity has a sustainable path to providing those resources. While nobody likes ads, I think they're opt-in in Brave and at the end of the day…

> Most of Brave is developed in the open. Where it isn't, there are good reasons why such as for example security.

I don't think you can muster a good security reason for not developing something in the open.

Re: Protonmail Recommended Browsers

#73
post #57

Why do privacy folks recommend Brave? Isn't Brave a commercial, ad serving entity?

They also still have trouble with websockets. Sometimes it just fails to reconnect, and will not work before restarting the browser or opening a private window. This is what drove me away from it, as well as recommending our clients to use another browser. There's an issue here from april 21 https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/issues/15410 which initially seemed geared towards Phoenix Liveview, but others have tro…

So that’s what killed my web session to various OAuth1/2 auth logins, such as Twitter.

Brave/iOS. (Still killing it, still on hold).

Re: Protonmail Recommended Browsers

#74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple collects your browsing history, something which I have yet to find a good explanation for. https://apps.apple.com/zm/app/safari/id1146562112

That link is to Safari on iOS and it says that your browsing history may be collected but it’s not linked to your identity. Is it a privacy problem if Apple collects aggregate browsing history from iOS users? And is this relevant to a thread about desktop browsers?

Unless sufficiently anonymized - and I don't know how much is actually sufficient - your browsing history can be used to identify you.

Re: Protonmail Recommended Browsers

#75

Why do privacy folks recommend Brave? Isn't Brave a commercial, ad serving entity?

So is Mozilla. Mozilla makes there money through product placement (mostly from Google) though they now make some money on the side selling (targeted) ads through out the browser.

Re: Protonmail Recommended Browsers

#76

Why do privacy folks recommend Brave? Isn't Brave a commercial, ad serving entity?

Many comments here that I agree with, but I'd add that thinking purely in terms of commercial vs non-commercial is very reductive.

Mozilla is a not-for-profit company, and that matters, but they do engage in advertising deals and things of the sort. Non-profits do have less incentives for unethical behavior, but they don't have zero incentives.

I don't think we can only recommend non-commercial companies, although giving points for being so is good.

(Biases disclaimer: I like Brave, I prefer Firefox by a tiny margin)

Re: Protonmail Recommended Browsers

#79
post #77

I don’t get brave. Works great but Feels scammy.

It’s my default browser for the past few years. It’s the fasted and the updates are small and seem respectful in that it asks me.

Chrome sneaks launchagents into startup and updates itself even though I don’t want to. And the agent has spiked my cpu and frustrated real activities.

The crypto stuff isn’t my favorite but I like the idea of “tipping” site owners although I’ve never done it. I used to put $2/month into flattr and wish it took off.

Re: Protonmail Recommended Browsers

#80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple collects your browsing history, something which I have yet to find a good explanation for. https://apps.apple.com/zm/app/safari/id1146562112

Your statement seems to leave away some important "details", so here is the full text from your link: The following data may be collected but it is not linked to your identity: Location Browsing History Usage Data Diagnostics

Wouldn’t most peoples browsing history plus location pretty much narrow them down to one person?
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