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Re: Gravity Payments CEO Dan Price resigns

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Be careful about crossing the line from "innocent until proven guilty" over into "victim-blaming" territory. It takes an insane amount of courage to come forth publicly with the kinds of accusations these women are bringing, and a history of men victim blaming women is why so many abusers roam our midst with impunity. When I hear these kinds of accounts, I typically have more reasons to distrust the accused abuser wh…

victim blaming requires someone choosing to do something that creates a victim

as you can see, this is at odds with the prior posters observation and puts you both at an impasse

I can empathize with the limitations of evidence and the limitations of the law as a reflection of the culture

that alone doesn’t help me pick a side based on any “lived experience” or power dynamic

But for anyone reading this: don’t put your hands on people necks just because of the lack of evidence or consequences. Its very abusive to target people that made a permanent digital message of flirting with you, or targeting people that you know made a white lie sometime in their life that you can use against them if they ever go to the police about something else, society relies on the mutual cooperation of everyone at all times

Re: Gravity Payments CEO Dan Price resigns

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Also, $70K is absolutely terrible in Seattle. I don't know why everyone applauded. He was massively underpaying most employees before and still did after.

Everyone applauded because 70k was a huge improvement over what most people were being paid in Seattle. Not everyone gets paid software developer salaries.

Sure, but his company is a credit card processing company, so there are probably a lot of tech workers.

I mean, a quick look at Glassdoor will show that while they do pay their "minimum" wage workers (which is probably an incredibly small part of their employees given the industry it's in) way above market, they underpay the rest and it is mentioned in almost all the negative reviews.

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“The one moral CEO in America.” That's up there with Ken Lay's proclamation that Enron set the bar for corporate ethics (I can't find the exact quote, and obviously before the collapse). 'The louder he talked of his honor, the faster we counted our spoons.' -- Ralph Waldo Emerson. Anyhoo, I have no actual idea if the accusations against Price are founded or not. That's for the courts to decide. I'm not into the whole…

Also, $70K is absolutely terrible in Seattle. I don't know why everyone applauded. He was massively underpaying most employees before and still did after.

Yeah, lots of folks make way less than that. $70k is double the minimum wage in Seattle.

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Ask yourself, would you let your daughter/spouse/sister go on a date/business dinner alone with him after reading the times article?

social discretion has nothing to do with the legal system

that being reiterated, thats a total nightmare for the guy in that couple to reinforce his girlfriend to see Dan, another man, and then needing to rescue her from peril, whether that’s just reckless driving that made her uncomfortable and putting her in danger or if thats includes a someone (Dan’s) hand on her neck and that crossing her boundaries and that relationship’s boundaries (I would say consensual or nonconsensual, but these are things I don't know with this dynamic, read below). Thats nightmarish when I think about people I love.

I find it interesting that they both made a trip to Seattle from San Diego and the boyfriend was therefore available to rescue her by car, I am wondering if that context was made clear during this date with Dan. This doesnt excuse any nonconsensual thing, there are some aspects I find completely foreign.

Re: Gravity Payments CEO Dan Price resigns

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“The one moral CEO in America.” That's up there with Ken Lay's proclamation that Enron set the bar for corporate ethics (I can't find the exact quote, and obviously before the collapse). 'The louder he talked of his honor, the faster we counted our spoons.' -- Ralph Waldo Emerson. Anyhoo, I have no actual idea if the accusations against Price are founded or not. That's for the courts to decide. I'm not into the whole…

"Innocent until proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt" is the gate for government violence, but as a society we operate on a very different standard, for very good reasons. Multiple credible accusations, corroborated by contemporaneous accounts, collated by a reputable journalist is definitely enough to call the accusations founded. Not enough to send people with guns to take away his freedom, maybe, but enough to fo…

You may form opinions which are yours to keep. When you enable a hivemind with half the power of the legal system, you ought to bear half the responsibility of the legal system.

Re: Gravity Payments CEO Dan Price resigns

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Also, $70K is absolutely terrible in Seattle. I don't know why everyone applauded. He was massively underpaying most employees before and still did after.

Yeah, lots of folks make way less than that. $70k is double the minimum wage in Seattle.

Yes but Dan Price owns a company credit card processing company, not somewhere where minimum-wage workers are legion.

Re: Gravity Payments CEO Dan Price resigns

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Can we stop with this unfounded speculation please? These are real human beings we are talking about with serious allegations. Let the court follow its due process and come to a decision. The jury is still out there. Innocent until proven guilty. All this armchair criticism and judgement on HN is turning out to be a very poor reading experience.

Claiming she is accusing him for "for sweet money" is as much unfounded accusation as the response to it. Actually even more if you look at the actual content of what posters wrote. While the response you reacted to contained mild claim, the original one was flat out vilification and direct accusation. Why is it that the former one is acceptable, but people who respond to it have to tip toes around?

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