Seems like great news but I wonder if these releases help the .NET ecosystem in a meaningful anyway. Almost all .NET developers I know still use Windows even on cloud.
At least 95% of our .NET workloads run on Linux.
.NET 6 is now in Ubuntu 22.04
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Re: .NET 6 is now in Ubuntu 22.04
#72Had to fix a bug in a hobby app that uses .NET Core for its backend last evening. I miss working in this ecosystem daily (back to node and rails for work), it's such a pleasure. The best developer experience I've ever had. If anyone is hiring and you use .NET... :)
Re: .NET 6 is now in Ubuntu 22.04
#73Microsoft seems like "a house divided" when it comes to opening .NET. They open source the core language, but have different proprietary dev tools (debugging for one) you need to pay for. https://isdotnetopen.com/ goes over these in more detail, but I'd rather use an ecosystem where I don't have to worry things will be progressively locked down in the future.
Re: .NET 6 is now in Ubuntu 22.04
#74Meh. In the end, Microsoft will betray those who trusted it. Long term, better just to pretend it does not exist and never, ever depend on anything with Microsoft name on it.
Re: .NET 6 is now in Ubuntu 22.04
#75Microsoft seems like "a house divided" when it comes to opening .NET. They open source the core language, but have different proprietary dev tools (debugging for one) you need to pay for. https://isdotnetopen.com/ goes over these in more detail, but I'd rather use an ecosystem where I don't have to worry things will be progressively locked down in the future.
The debugger is part of Visual Studio, which is a paid product. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to not publish the source for it.
Providing the basics as open source and then charging a little for some extras should not be the end of the world. You see the same in the Jetbrains ecosystem where e.g. the community edition of Intellij is free and open source but they have a paid version with a lot of extras.
Paid products for developers are not as common as they used to be but we are talking about tools that improve productivity a lot for people that make a lot of money using those tools. Developers (my self included) are oddly stingy when it comes to spending on software but at the same time think nothing of blowing a few thousand dollars on hardware.
Re: .NET 6 is now in Ubuntu 22.04
#76Where do you host your .net projects? I am especially interested in anything other than azure webapp and VM's/IIS.
Re: .NET 6 is now in Ubuntu 22.04
#77For reasons currently unclear to me, installing this seems to cause apt to remove Discord. The following packages have unmet dependencies. libc++1-14 : Depends: libunwind-14 (>= 1:14.0.0) but it is not installable libc++abi1-14 : Depends: libunwind-14 (>= 1:14.0.0) but it is not installable E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
Re: .NET 6 is now in Ubuntu 22.04
#78Seems like great news but I wonder if these releases help the .NET ecosystem in a meaningful anyway. Almost all .NET developers I know still use Windows even on cloud.
>Almost all .NET developers I know still use Windows even on cloud That seems untrue. On the Cloud side every .Net shop I know from startups to government/enterprise are now deploying to Linux or Linux containers. On the developer side 75% of .Net devs are on Visual Studio on Windows but a big and fast growing segment are using JetBrains Rider on Mac/Ubuntu.
Re: .NET 6 is now in Ubuntu 22.04
#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
Does visual studio run on linux yet? That's my rubicon for taking .net seriously. It's not just about the runtime, the tooling has to be present as well.
JetBrains Rider on Ubuntu/Mac is probably a better development experience than Visual Studio on Windows.
Re: .NET 6 is now in Ubuntu 22.04
#80The .NET ecosystem is giving me a lot of confidence these days. I've been on this rollercoaster since .NET Core 2.x and don't think I will be getting off any time soon. We recently upgraded from 3.1 to 6, which was a total non-event. The code base that was around for Core 2.x is still the same one we have today. Some substantial changes made to the web interfaces and hosting, but nothing in the business logic or data…
I just jumped on the .NET Core gravy train after 6+ years of Ruby on Rails development. I feel so productive and confident working with .NET. Ill be riding this rollercoaster with you for a while!