Is this supposed to be deep or something? That seems on the contrary extremely shallow and devoid of any insight.
Second-Order Thinking
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Cynicism is not a substitute for wisdom.
A healthy skepticism can be a useful way to avoid vacuous thinking.
Skepticism requires critical thinking and engagement. You can't be a proper skeptic about something without taking the time to understand the domain you're being skeptical of, approach it in good faith from first principles as much as possible, and accept criticism in kind.
Most people just won't bother, because cynicism and snark provide a better endorphin hit, and the internet has trained people to associate that feeling with likelihood of correctness (what Stephen Colbert called "truthiness" back in the day.)
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#73Aaaand third order thinking is skimming this and knowing it's about as deep as the conversation I tried to have at a bar three hours ago when I explained I was just playing "devil's advocate" to someone who was already playing devil's advocate. Whenever I get desperate enough to start a blog full of deep thoughts that only gets posted here, watch out HN.
I generally skip articles from Farnam Street. Once I saw the source, I already knew what the comments would be. ;)
Yeah I like Shane, but FS seems it has too narrow a focus and he has tried really hard to squeeze every last drop out of these mental models.
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#74This article, and some of the comments here, seem to confuse "second-order" with "long-term". Long-term just means doing the same analysis far out into the future: "If I spend less on maintaining software product $LEGACY, I will save money. If I continue to do this, I will save more and more money by each passing month." Second-order means discovering neighbouring causal links. "If I spend less on maintaining softwar…
I think people just interpret "future" very differently. For some "future" does include your second and third paragraph, since it is also a potential causality down the line. For others, it's only first paragraph example. Future for some is a branching tree, for others just a linked list.
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#75Aaaand third order thinking is skimming this and knowing it's about as deep as the conversation I tried to have at a bar three hours ago when I explained I was just playing "devil's advocate" to someone who was already playing devil's advocate. Whenever I get desperate enough to start a blog full of deep thoughts that only gets posted here, watch out HN.
Cynicism is not a substitute for wisdom.
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#76Is this supposed to be deep or something? That seems on the contrary extremely shallow and devoid of any insight.
Totally r/iamverysmart vibes
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#77Is this supposed to be deep or something? That seems on the contrary extremely shallow and devoid of any insight.
Well, it is Farnam Street…
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Humility essentially the core virtue of Christianity, as well as active recognition of pride as a sin. If you dig deep, you’ll find that pride is the root of virtually every evil. I’m only pointing this out because of the perception of Christianity that you mention in your post. There’s a very big difference between what Reddit claims is Christian behavior and what the Bible actually claims. https://www.readnotmisled…
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#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
A healthy skepticism can be a useful way to avoid vacuous thinking.
Skepticism requires critical thinking and engagement. You can't be a proper skeptic about something without taking the time to understand the domain you're being skeptical of, approach it in good faith from first principles as much as possible, and accept criticism in kind. Most people just won't bother, because cynicism and snark provide a better endorphin hit, and the internet has trained people to associate that f…
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