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Re: On being tired

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Post by RhodesianHunter »

Silverback_VII wrote: post #12

I believe that there is a general tiredness affecting large parts of the population. Maybe some side effects of covid-19 / the vaccines or maybe it’s completely unrelated and more psychological in nature like lack of deeper meaning in most people's lives. All I know is that you have to fight it. this tiredness doesn't go away with more rest. On the contrary, your self-esteem will take a hit and you will internalise y…

I think it has something to do with an accumulation of microplastics and/or PFAS/PFOS in our bodies. One of these things is going to be our generation's version of leaded gasoline.

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Post by yibg »

Silverback_VII wrote: post #63
skrebbel wrote: post #44

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It's not always about attitude, sometimes it's about physical healing. Sometimes, your body really just needs rest. Stop telling people stuff you don't know enough about.

I know enough about people focusing too much on their wellbeing. You can trust me. Your mindset is more harmful than mine. Sometimes the body needs rest, it's certainly true, but humans are adapted to a rather unforgiving environment in which you had to function even when in bad shape. Mind and body are connected.

It’s the blanket “just walk it off” advise that’s dangerous. No amount of mind over matter will let you walk off a broken leg.

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Post by 331c8c71 »

skrebbel wrote: post #44
Silverback_VII wrote: post #39

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To let you drag down by outer circumstances is more dangerous in my opinion. When you start running even if you would rather lay in bed that generates a lot of self-esteem. The resulting positive attitude may even be good for your immune system. In some unfortunate situations you need to take some risks to get out of it.

It's not always about attitude, sometimes it's about physical healing. Sometimes, your body really just needs rest. Stop telling people stuff you don't know enough about.

Not overdoing it (to start with) is by far preferable tbh. My experience, for instance, is that inflamed achilles takes very long time (years) to go back to normal. To get it inflamed was fairly easy: resuming jogging a bit too swiftly after a winter break.

Re: On being tired

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Post by 331c8c71 »

Silverback_VII wrote: post #12

I believe that there is a general tiredness affecting large parts of the population. Maybe some side effects of covid-19 / the vaccines or maybe it’s completely unrelated and more psychological in nature like lack of deeper meaning in most people's lives. All I know is that you have to fight it. this tiredness doesn't go away with more rest. On the contrary, your self-esteem will take a hit and you will internalise y…

Hard to be sure tbh. I thought I had something like that since I had covid at least twice. Now I am on vacation next to sea and i wouldn't say I lack energy.

I think for some the daily grind causes noticeable fatigue fairly quickly (if not managed actively).

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Post by Daunk »

lysergia wrote: post #2

Not gonna lie, I get nights where I don’t sleep at all and my mind ‘glows’ with thoughts and the thoughts are intrusive, almost an imposter on my mind. This is a good time to write and take notes. Missing a night’s sleep is detrimental to the next day where all the things that would normally excite me are boring as hell. All I can do is exist during the day and I feel slightly drunk and can’t do anything that require…

I also get this "glow" sometimes and can't sleep for an entire night. I feel like I just want to jump out of bed and do everything at once. But I keep telling myself that "I'll make sure to do it tomorrow" but that seems to almost never happen. I don't mind these sleepless nights, but I wish the "glow" came during the day instead.

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Post by plonk »

kiririn wrote: post #13

Concussion is a trial by fire of discovering what is truly not taking up mental energy. In the acute phase you go from having 16+ hours of it per day to 10 minutes. The answer is pretty much just staring at a blank wall. Anything else is costly to a degree

I had a mild one that put me out of work for a week. I wonder if it's really a lack of energy, or just the body deterring you from any activity by pretending to be tired, so the brain can heal faster.

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Post by copperx »

garganzol wrote: post #57
copperx wrote: post #51

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I've never heard of this before. Is this well known? Do ROS go away after sleeping?

This is relatively well known [1]. ROS normally go away after sleeping, and this one of the reasons we need sleep. But. If you are past a certain threshold, ROS can do so much damage that it starts to affect cellular ATP production, leading to a tissue hypoxia. When this happens, it leads to onset of an acquired mitochondrial dysfunction. This is a pathological state that is characterized by a lingering fatigue as it…

I wish I had heard about this earlier. I'm now 40 and my sleep patterns are not healthy. I don't have insomnia, I'm just used to sleeping past the point of total exhaustion. That cannot be good given what you say about ROS :(

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Post by plonk »

lysergia wrote: post #2

Not gonna lie, I get nights where I don’t sleep at all and my mind ‘glows’ with thoughts and the thoughts are intrusive, almost an imposter on my mind. This is a good time to write and take notes. Missing a night’s sleep is detrimental to the next day where all the things that would normally excite me are boring as hell. All I can do is exist during the day and I feel slightly drunk and can’t do anything that require…

That's funny, I have the same nights sometimes and never thought of asking a doctor. Seems it's just what happens when we stay too inactive for a few days or mess up our sleep schedule.

Was that the only symptom for the psychosis diagnosis?

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