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Re: Tell HN: Reddit mandatory login to see sensitive pages

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On another note, I tried to make a throwaway on `old.reddit.com`. I couldn't find a way to make an account without using an email. I had to manually type in `old.reddit.com/register` to get to a form that would let me not type in an email and even then it wasn't obvious that the email wasn't required.

I would've never guessed it's still possible to create an account without using an email or a phone on any site in 2022. Makes me wonder, why do they keep the functionality? Did they forget about the page?

> I would've never guessed it's still possible to create an account without using an email or a phone on any site in 2022 ... why do they keep the functionality?

Is this a joke? Participation is assumed to be only on the basis of anonymity. If the baker requested your name, there would be something very wrong around your parts.

Intrusive requests would mean refusal of participation.

Re: Tell HN: Reddit mandatory login to see sensitive pages

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post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I highly doubt that. Every single time Reddit comes up here, people complain and complain, but also share old.reddit.com as a work-around instead of actually leaving Reddit. It's a perfect way of keeping the hardcore users addicted while having a modern, instant-gratification interface for the majority. They know what happened to Digg, so far I don't see any indication that they're going to repeat this mistake.

My guess is that a large number of younger people use the "new" reddit, and basically pay to keep everything running with the ads they view. Many older Reddit users just go to old.reddit.com, and would sooner leave the site than use the current design. It's absolutely fascinating that they have both versions. To me it illustrates so perfectly what the Internet was vs. what is has become. There's probably more money t…

I'd like to see some numbers on this, but from my gut feeling it's not a then vs now thing. Much rather, the old farts that practically live on that website are the ones providing the rest with free content.

Basically the 90% / 9% / 1% split between people reading, people interacting and people creating. I would be very surprised if the 1% contributing and creating on reddit wouldn't be using old reddit for the most part.

Re: Tell HN: Reddit mandatory login to see sensitive pages

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post #45

They are A/B testing the login requirement at the moment. Unfortunately logging in is also a nightmare on Reddit, with distracting content continuously flying in your face.

Yes, they're A/B testing multiple things with NSFW content. Up until recently I was in the "you must use the mobile app instead of mobile site to see nsfw content" group. I'm not sure exactly when that changed for me, maybe a week or so ago, but I no longer have that requirement anyway.

It's really annoying because people often use the tag in a jokey way. I see it a lot on the bread/sourdough reddits. It's funny, but the new redirect to login really breaks the assumption there.

Re: Tell HN: Reddit mandatory login to see sensitive pages

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post #40

It's another form of information control. Or maybe call it propaganda. I mean, it's a public conversation. But when you selectively reveal and censor. That's a narrative sculpter. And of course "sensitive" means whatever reddit wants it to mean.

who's ever been censored on reddit? what is actively being censored, there?

unless you’re new to reddit, you’d know there’s heavy censorship on plebbit

r/undelete has some things and there were other sites created to catch the stuff that was pruned outright, especially comments. If you don’t support the ‘hivemind’ echo chamber, and talk about forbidden things (+govts) you get censored.

Re: Tell HN: Reddit mandatory login to see sensitive pages

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post #47

On another note, I tried to make a throwaway on `old.reddit.com`. I couldn't find a way to make an account without using an email. I had to manually type in `old.reddit.com/register` to get to a form that would let me not type in an email and even then it wasn't obvious that the email wasn't required.

If you pay close attention, you might notice that the email address field isn't required on the old.reddit.com signup popup. Press next without filling it in and you get the username/password part of registration.

This completely unintuitive trick also works on reddit.com.

Re: Tell HN: Reddit mandatory login to see sensitive pages

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post #58
post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The day they shut down "old" Reddit is probably the day a large number of people leave Reddit altogether because the main Reddit site is a dark patterns hell. I think they'll still do it though because most web sites only want the kind of users who don't know how to install ad blockers.

large number? Reddit has seen by far the most growth after switching to the new UI. The old reddit has already not been maintained to support new features such as polls.

Maybe it's a larger number than you suspect. r/TheBoys had a controversial poll recently and had less than 400 responses for their 500k subscribers.

Re: Tell HN: Reddit mandatory login to see sensitive pages

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Use either old.reddit.com or i.reddit.com Firefox and Chrome both have old Reddit plugins that will do it automatically. Unfortunately it's not compatible with newer Firefox android .

PrivacyRedirect [1] is a nice multi-purpose addon for this in my opinion. Most of the redirects can be easily customized and all of them can individually be enabled/disabled. It also has multiple nitter/teddit proxies defined for the times they get overloaded. Redirects Twitter, YouTube, Instagram, & Google Maps requests to privacy friendly alternatives - Nitter, Invidious, Bibliogram, & OpenStreetMap. When the time…

LibRedirect[1] is a currently maintained fork of PrivacyRedirect, with additional features (PrivacyRedirect is no longer maintained since late 2021) [2]

[1] https://libredirect.github.io/

[2] https://libredirect.github.io/faq.html#why_forking_privacy_r...

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