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Is this the end of social networking?

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Re: Is this the end of social networking?

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I think that the only domain where social networks can be relevant is in the geoloc domain. Dating apps are quite an obvious example where it works very well, but dating is a very limited scope. So of course, the single problem of anything geoloc is safety and privacy, which is not the strong aspect of any social network right now. Tinder and others work hard to make their users safe, and it's difficult because users…

I think for dating/sex people are willing to leave their comfort zone and meet new people/take some risks. I not so sure about boardgames and walking... who wants to play a boardgame with a complete stranger ? but hey, why not? someone should try with the hope to become the new meta in social networking.

I would argue that “play dates” for parents of kids 2-5 would be a (small) niche.

Parents with young kids may have other friends with similarly aged children, but many don’t. It can be isolating because so much of your non-work life/time becomes child focused. Kids that age are too young to have friends from school or activities. Some can strike up conversation at parks, but many find the inertia too much.

Good foundation to expand into clothes/toys reselling/gifting, babysitting co-op scheduling, nanny share, etc. which could all be monetized .

Probably a good niche for Facebook though I would rather see someone else do it.

Re: Is this the end of social networking?

#72
post #41

I've been spending more time on Discord. It is replaced forums and subreddits for many of my interests like synthesizers and music. I don't like that the information is stored in a chat-style vs posts.

I don't like that all the info is locked up and not indexable and searchable on search engines.

Re: Is this the end of social networking?

#73

TikTok is winning because it is video first. The more immersive the media, the more profitable the ads. Facebook is having trouble pivoting it's products to video. Facebook is betting big that the next more-immersive medium after video will be VR. That's basically the whole story. Notice I didn't use the word "algorithm" or "social"? These takes are tired and naive, TikTok isn't addictive in any operationally useful…

YouTube is video first.

I think TikTok is winning because their objective algorithm optimizes for a different outcome.

Facebook and YouTube optimize for time spent on the site. Youtube famously cut ad revenue for content that is watched for fewer than 10 minutes. They both make decisions based on what will increase time spent on the site, thinking that's the best way to sell ads.

TikTok optimizes for content that people love by giving the most reach to items that commenters buy gifts for. This has the side effect of making content that consumers really connect with get paid the most. There is a big difference between what people love and what makes people spend a lot of their time.

Re: Is this the end of social networking?

#74

TikTok is winning because it is video first. The more immersive the media, the more profitable the ads. Facebook is having trouble pivoting it's products to video. Facebook is betting big that the next more-immersive medium after video will be VR. That's basically the whole story. Notice I didn't use the word "algorithm" or "social"? These takes are tired and naive, TikTok isn't addictive in any operationally useful…

100% this. Everyone else is trying to make a tiktok clone and bolt it on to a maze of existing, and in some cases very similar, social media offerings. TikTok works because it's video only from the ground up.

then why didn't vine or snapchat or whatever other video first platform from yesteryear catch on as big too?

clearly there's more to it than "it's simply video first"

Re: Is this the end of social networking?

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Y’all should read “Amusing ourselves to death” by Neil Postman if you’re interested in how mediums have changed over the years. As Huxley hinted, our soma is just technological narcotics. With each new medium of technology brings in a plethora of problems that cannot be reformed.

yes! thank you. huxley was right about a scary number of things... this debate between will self and adam gopnik on 'brave new world' vs '1984' is really good if anybody has 1.5 hours to indulge. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31CcclqEiZw just grabbed 'amusing ourselves to death' from libby, thanks for the recommendation!

perhaps that video was inspired by postman's famous comparison. here's the comic form:

https://biblioklept.org/2013/06/08/huxley-vs-orwell-the-webc...

Re: Is this the end of social networking?

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post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> People want their bubbles. We’re all here on HN for that exact purpose. 100% disagree. I'm here to find ideas I disagree with and tell people how they're wrong. I'm not looking for an agreeable experience here. I'm also here to learn about new tech.

Bubbles don't need to be harmful. HN is a bubble. There are ideas that are not allowed here. There are other ideas that are explicitly promoted. This is the value proposition of HN. You are free to go elsewhere to get other perspectives or interactions. This is as it should be.

It depends on what the bubble is about. If it's for a specific anime who cares but politics is a bubble whose influence exits the bubble

Re: Is this the end of social networking?

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post #34
post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> People want their bubbles. We’re all here on HN for that exact purpose. 100% disagree. I'm here to find ideas I disagree with and tell people how they're wrong. I'm not looking for an agreeable experience here. I'm also here to learn about new tech.

Bubbles don't need to be harmful. HN is a bubble. There are ideas that are not allowed here. There are other ideas that are explicitly promoted. This is the value proposition of HN. You are free to go elsewhere to get other perspectives or interactions. This is as it should be.

> There are ideas that are not allowed here.

It would be more accurate to say that some ideas require more work here. The reasons why are open to debate.

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