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[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CLOUD_Act
[2]: https://www.imy.se/en/organisations/data-protection/this-app...
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US cloud companies can be forced by the US government to spy on European citizens. That's the reasoning behind this ruling. Are you not aware of the NSA spying programs?
I'm sure industrial policy and thus economics had no factor in those laws being written.
> A included clauses in the offer that stated, among other things, that it will not access, use, or disclose customer data to any third party, except as necessary to maintain or provide the Services, or as necessary to comply with the law or a valid and binding order of a governmental body.
Of course giving a US company control over EU data at a whim means that it's a transfer to the US. The court made the only reasonable decision.
US needs to economically retaliate in kind. If the US has the same data protections as the EU they’d make up some other excuse to attack US companies. This is what happens when you can’t compete you make up regulatory excuses. I’m sure I’ll get downvoted by Europeans but it’s the truth. Look at the valuable companies and where they are located :)
Sure, they can champion their own citizens' rights on issues of where and how data is stored, and prevent American user data from being sent offshore in Europe. That would be ideal. :)
Seriously.
We talk about this cloud stuff like it is rocket science. It is not. It is a box in a basement. We are capable of doing that ourselves.
And no. It ain’t cool for NSA to sniff around some German governmental software, even though you are the good guys and on our side.
US needs to economically retaliate in kind. If the US has the same data protections as the EU they’d make up some other excuse to attack US companies. This is what happens when you can’t compete you make up regulatory excuses. I’m sure I’ll get downvoted by Europeans but it’s the truth. Look at the valuable companies and where they are located :)
End result is almost certain to be more cloud providers in Europe, but I'm not sure they're wrong to want that.
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I hope you are aware that "the cloud" is not some secret, mysterious piece of technology that the EU can't figure out. We have software engineers as well as data centers and EU-based cloud companies. Digital consumer networks were established here long before the U.S and the internet was invented here. Your arrogance is grating.
Right, and the goal of this sort of ruling is to make sure that those EU-based engineers have work and get paid. It has nothing to do with consumer protection or privacy. If it did, EU companies that have servers in the US would be banned from processing EU user data for the exact reason spelled out in this ruling.
I have no beef with US companies doing business here as such, but as long as they're supporting espionage and sabotage by handing crucial data to the NSA and CIA they should simply not be allowed to operate here.
Isn’t this sort of what we accuse the Chinese of doing? The US designs the technology and then the Chinese manufacturers steal that design to make their own? Except now, the EU is more or less forcing American companies to sell unaffiliated spin-offs to the EU to continue doing business there. Seems a bit underhanded to change the rules now after so long, especially considering the fact that the EU can’t make these c…
I hope you are aware that "the cloud" is not some secret, mysterious piece of technology that the EU can't figure out. We have software engineers as well as data centers and EU-based cloud companies. Digital consumer networks were established here long before the U.S and the internet was invented here. Your arrogance is grating.
Really? In some places in Europe, people were starting to get excited about dial-up BBSes in the mid nineties, a decade after they were on their way out in North America.
In 1994 I was doing contract work in Vancouver on a website with paying subscribers.