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To uncover a deepfake video call, ask the caller to turn sideways

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Re: To uncover a deepfake video call, ask the caller to turn sideways

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Deepfake models are trained on very similar data. They don't generalize well, usually. E.g. we take lots of data from YouTube videos of a single person under a specific condition (same time, same day, same haircut etc.) I know that as I spent quite some time researching these models and worked on a deepfake detection startup. Purely looking at it from a technological side, it's a cat mouse game. Similar to an antivir…

> Put shoe on head

Ah yes the OG method of verification

Re: To uncover a deepfake video call, ask the caller to turn sideways

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Source: I work in the field. This is a current limitation, and an artifact of the data+method but not something that should be relied upon. If we do some adversary modelling, we can find two ways to work around this: 1) actively generate and search for such data; perhaps expensive for small actors but not well equipped malicious ones. 2) wait for deep learning to catch up, e.g. by extending NERFs (neural radiance fie…

I wonder how good the deepfake would be for things it didn't have training data on. For example, making an extreme grimace. Or have the caller insert a ping pong ball in his cheek to continue, or pull his face with his fingers.

One thing I notice with colorized movies is the color of the actor's teeth tends to flicker between grey and ivory. I wonder if there are similar artifacts with deep fakes.

Re: To uncover a deepfake video call, ask the caller to turn sideways

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post #52

I was recently looking for designers for my company when I came across an interesting profile on Dribbble. I reached out and quickly scheduled a time when we could talk over zoom. At the meeting time, in comes this person who seems to have a strange-looking, silicone-like face. I was using my Zoom account (I rarely use other peoples zooms unless I trust them), to avoid situations like this. One thing I noticed is tha…

For what it's worth, it looks more like an aggressive filter rather than a deepfake.

My thoughts too - but giving benefit of doubt to gp since it’s a still shot vs video

Re: To uncover a deepfake video call, ask the caller to turn sideways

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Serendipitously over the weekend I was thinking about a future where for key sensitive data access (e.g. production main) you may need to have a quick 5 minute call (4th factor, "3D verification") where you would be asked to turn on your camera and be asked to answer some simple question and in different positions... Main thinking was how out of control it would get, it would probably end up looking like anti-cheat s…

We have PK cryptography you know, yubikeys and such.

Re: To uncover a deepfake video call, ask the caller to turn sideways

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People asked stuff like this 15years ago (do bunny ears on yourself or pretend to pick your nose). Usually to see if the other person is catfishing with a prerecorded video. It usually happens if the other person types instead of speaks (because it's "late" and people are sleeping)

The only thing interesting about the title is the possibility of real time deepfakes for calls. If it's not realtime then 15years ago called and they want their technique back

Re: To uncover a deepfake video call, ask the caller to turn sideways

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post #51

Also if Nicolas Cage is calling me its probably fake.

What if it's your CEO? Or someone from the bank? Or a college professor? Or a political prisoner?

I suppose the same way people used to deal with getting a letter from someone.

Re: To uncover a deepfake video call, ask the caller to turn sideways

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I wonder how much work would it entail to swap one actor's face for another's in a movie. Just finished watching Fury Road, and Tom Hardy just feels a bit off to me.

That's "bread and butter" work in VFX. I used to be a stunt double actor replacement specialist. These daze, ML enhanced tools make the work for a face replacement shot exponentially faster and easier - as is needed for the huge number of superhero stunts insurance companies will not let the stars perform.

So do we really know that Tom Cruise is doing his own stunts as claimed?

Re: To uncover a deepfake video call, ask the caller to turn sideways

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post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No no... this does look like a proper downward dog, but no way you could do that!

Please say "I'm not a robot" with a Scottish accent 3 times and do a backflip to login.

But voice recognition technology… it don’t do Scottish accents

https://youtu.be/TqAu-DDlINs

Re: To uncover a deepfake video call, ask the caller to turn sideways

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post #49

Deepfake models are trained on very similar data. They don't generalize well, usually. E.g. we take lots of data from YouTube videos of a single person under a specific condition (same time, same day, same haircut etc.) I know that as I spent quite some time researching these models and worked on a deepfake detection startup. Purely looking at it from a technological side, it's a cat mouse game. Similar to an antivir…

> Put shoe on head

> Put fish on head

https://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/02/technology/02spam.html#:~...

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