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How to stop being “terminally online”

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Re: How to stop being “terminally online”

#71
I had a similar wakeup call a couple of years back.

I'd become really invested in online communities on Twitter, Reddit and Discord. Like others participating, I was becoming increasingly radicalised to the dominant group opinions there, and my world view was being gradually reshaped by every interaction with these echo chambers. I was repeating what I read there to friends and family offline, much to their bemusement. It was addictive and consuming!

My trigger point for escaping this was unintentional. These happened to be a series of 'left-wing' online spaces (though what I'm about to write could occur anywhere really), and I was becoming increasingly internally critical of some of the dogma. After a certain incident on Reddit, where a moderator of a high-profile subreddit was banned site-wide for linking to a critical article about a Reddit admin, I posed a question on the Discord: what if this admin wasn't really what they say they are?

The reaction was swift and fierce - people I'd talked nicely and comradely with for months and years lining up to shout down my question, calling it offensive, sending me insults, calling me a bigot. I was then banned from the server.

This surprised and upset me to begin with, but then I started questioning myself and my motivations. Why was I so bothered about this? Why had I invested so much of my time and energy into these communities? Why would simply asking a question cause such a calamity? Did any of this really matter? Was engaging with any of this having a positive effect on anyone, including myself?

Over time, this led to two major changes in how I approached using the internet. Firstly, attempting to broaden my mind to consider other views and opinions, avoiding dogma and narrow thinking (this is still in progress!). Secondly, not being as tied to accounts and identities online - I deleted or deactivated all my social media accounts, and now just create throwaways whenever I get a desire to comment. This helps me feel that I can walk away whenever I want to or need to.

That said, I've found I still can't give up entirely on consuming social media, it's too addictive. But I hope this is a step in the right direction.

I hope my sharing of these insights provides some value to others who may be experiencing similar.

Re: How to stop being “terminally online”

#72
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A lot of good questions to ask yourself here. But, > have you ever used/applied "internet slang" (cringe, based, cuck, chad) in/to real-life situations? I take slight issue with this one. To me, there is no difference between “internet slang” and just “slang”. The internet is ubiquitous and the language we use online and offline is largely the same now. Didn’t always be this way. I still remember the first time I hea…

I know someone who laughs by saying LOL instead of actually laughing. So there is a difference between slang and internet slang.

Re: How to stop being “terminally online”

#73
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was like you few months ago. When summer started I decided to stop reading news from online. It was hard at first but quite fast I started seeing the benefits. More focus, more happiness, not being so worried all the time. Now I only read HN (way too often of course :)) and I ordered a newspaper to my home which is published 3 times a week. I get distilled look on whats going on in the world but it’s not eating my…

I tried to do this as well... bought a year subscription to the local paper. Unfortunately I live semi-rural and it is written so egregiously its only worth is feeding the firebox each week.

If it makes you feel any better, I did the same thing, but I live semi-urban, and it was similarly egregious.

I don’t have a firebox, but I suppose it kept the recycling man in business.

Re: How to stop being “terminally online”

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post #66

Recently I was arrested and had all my electronics seized by the police. The whole experience was a wake-up call, not just in terms of being arrested but being without a computer or any way to get online for a couple of weeks. It really made me realize how 'addicted' I was to the internet, and going cold turkey was horrible, time slowed down and I was sure I was missing out on everything. But I read so much more and…

> But I read so much more You're reading all the time on the internet, it's literally the foundational enabling skill of it. I find it very weird when people say the benefit of being offline is they "read more".

I really think much Internet content is more like cheap magazines/newspapers - small articles that can be read in under 5 minutes, ads and distractions peppered everywhere, and comment sections that are often large collections of short text. Social media is that experience on a higher scale.

The experience is not the same as sitting down and reading a 300 page book cover to cover which is also the product of an author sitting down and spending months or even years writing it. Of course that experience is definitely possible on the Internet - ebooks/PDF. But someone "reading" social media is not the same as really reading.

Re: How to stop being “terminally online”

#76
> if you find it hard to ditch tiktok, instagram, twitter, or some other similar site, going "cold turkey" will be even harder. try to gradually reduce your usage

YMMV but my trick for Facebook was a hard commit to "I'm going to take 2 weeks off". Cold Turkey with a boundary. I think I check it once for five minutes every month or two now.

HN is trickier because I don't have to login first to see it. When I start to think Im on it too much, I delete it from my password manager and don't supply an email. (Sorry, I know this is annoying to them what run this site)

Another useful thing is to generally keep a "don't respond to first level replies" policy. Keeps you in discussions but out of knee-jerk responses. Might seem rude but it keeps you sane.

Re: How to stop being “terminally online”

#77

I try to write down what I'm about to use the internet for before I open the web browser. This way I can glance and see if I've gotten distracted and try to get back on task. This works wonders when trying to list something on FB Marketplace. In the past I would be three posts deep in my feed before snapping out of it and remembering why I opened FB in the first place. I can see why the feed was such a game changer f…

This could be an awesome extension. Something that asks you in a couple textboxes - what is your goal with this browser session/how much time do you think you need to accomplish it - and then keeps these items of info visible below the tab bar.

Re: How to stop being “terminally online”

#78
post #76

> if you find it hard to ditch tiktok, instagram, twitter, or some other similar site, going "cold turkey" will be even harder. try to gradually reduce your usage YMMV but my trick for Facebook was a hard commit to "I'm going to take 2 weeks off". Cold Turkey with a boundary. I think I check it once for five minutes every month or two now. HN is trickier because I don't have to login first to see it. When I start to…

It works for some people. I always had more success just gradually stopping.

I had massive issue with that, I always tried going cold turkey. Then I just stared to count hours, set high - but still - limits. And over time I found I feel that I don't have to, even if I'm withing the limits - I felt no need.

Re: How to stop being “terminally online”

#79
It's entirely reasonable to read through this article and come to the conclusion that you have a balanced approach to being online.

My hobbies involve a computer and the people I enjoy interacting with are online, not on a meetup site or at work.

The important thing is being able to self-reflect properly on it, and not delude oneself. I can still put my phone away to have dinner with family or some other outing easily, as a point of trying to be focused on whatever it is I'm doing.

Re: How to stop being “terminally online”

#80
I'm struggling with it. I have a website blocker on my Mac, but then I just turn it off eventually and go back to old habits, if I block hacker news, reddit etc, then I end up just having random thoughts and googling those and finding other sites to read through and of course sometimes reddit can have the answer for the thing i needed to google, so that can be annoying.

I changed to a white list to try and solve this problem, but then I just keep finding little bits of websites i need access to, to do what I want, the minute I disable something or find a solution, I just get around it somehow or need to turn it off and end up at square one.

I feel I tap into the " what is your life philosophy? what do you believe in? do the communities you browse online reflect this in some way? did you learn about these from people online?" this quite a lot.

The internet for me, is not about watching cute cat videos, but trying to learn more about life, philosophy, how to be a better human, productivity porn etc, maybe it's a big insecurity of mine, but I think about this stuff all the time and the internet is a unending resource for all this stuff, I figure that a great resource in solving and thinking about all these things, must be other people and there own thoughts and experiences that I can learn from and then integrate with my own thinking and the internet gives me unending access to that, or at least in theory it does.

So i'm reading through Hacking News, Reddit, blogs, watching youtube videos, podcasts etc, hoping to find those things and then I end up with a bunch of notes and documents etc, but it all kinda becomes overwhelming anyway, either from the content I am currently consuming or even all the thoughts and ideas I wrote down previous because I thought they where somehow useful.

I honestly don't know what to do about this anymore. I'm trying to figure out a system for living more simply and internet consumption is part of it, but also there is the bigger issue that i mentioned which I think is the primary driver of that internet consumption.

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