Yep, I noticed this last year when they still stored the list client-side and had great fun reverse engineering it:
Part of my code makes Copilot crash
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Re: Part of my code makes Copilot crash
#72What was that bot that MSFT stood up on Twitter that trolls and memers fed to turn alt-right? I know they eventually took it down and that it stirred up a lot of controversy. I would not be surprised if someone found some Copilot output stemming from "gender" and reported to MSFT/GitHub for them to simply short circuit or "break" after finding certain keywords.
Yeah they probably found something like: assert gender in ["male", "female"]. If this is enough to trigger a backlash then maybe we deserve whatever fate has in store for us.
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#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's gonna come soon enough. The backlash is already mounting. I'm just honestly super exhausted by any of the insanity right now, not even only regarding this topic. It's just complete black-and-white thinking these days, no matter about what it is. Extremes only. The stronger your opinion the better, how else would you feel like you exist? Almost no one with a rational, centered overarching perspective. Twenty year…
> The backlash is already mounting. Is it? To me it feels like it's getting worse and worse, but that might be my bubble.
getting worse from both sides
Re: Part of my code makes Copilot crash
#74Now if only someone could figure out a magic word that would stop Copilot from being trained on my code.
Re: Part of my code makes Copilot crash
#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
I added "gender" (an IANA registered JWT claim) to my JWT payload schema and found Copilot will not provide any suggestions after that. Not on the same line, nor in the rest of the file. After removing the word gender entirely, it works again. https://www.iana.org/assignments/jwt/jwt.xhtml
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Which part of the smell test does this not pass exactly?
They just described almost identical behaviour but with an isolated test case. Yeah there’s no video or whatever but it does support the original diagnosis.
Re: Part of my code makes Copilot crash
#76Besides the absurdity of the code crashing because of the word "gender". My problem and curiosity with all of this is... "What was going on in the head of the person writing the parser?" I mean, were they thinking that if someone is writing code, let's say, for a gender dropdown and it was only ["male", "female"], it would try to suggest to us to add 26 more genders instead (and worse, suggest a list of genders to ad…
Maybe the one saving grace in all this, is that the AI singularity will never happen thanks to wokeness.
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#77No post body was provided.
Re: Part of my code makes Copilot crash
#78Besides the absurdity of the code crashing because of the word "gender". My problem and curiosity with all of this is... "What was going on in the head of the person writing the parser?" I mean, were they thinking that if someone is writing code, let's say, for a gender dropdown and it was only ["male", "female"], it would try to suggest to us to add 26 more genders instead (and worse, suggest a list of genders to ad…
Perhaps it was not "do I think this is reasonable," but "is acting in good faith enough to keep me out of trouble."
Re: Part of my code makes Copilot crash
#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why? Are you unable to believe someone might think differently than you do, without it being explained away as "artificial voting"? Edit to add: Nice, they edited their comment. Previously it accused HN of having an artificial voting conspiracy. So that is what my comment was about. I will not edit my original comment above.
They made an unsubstantiated allegation about an unsubstantiated allegation. The allegation was upvoted, the allegation about the allegation was downvoted. Surely you understand how silly that is?
Just making a note here, the answer was approved by Dave Cheney. If you're unfamiliar with him: https://dave.cheney.net/
He works for GitHub.
Re: Part of my code makes Copilot crash
#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
What type of thing? Asking for genuine curiosity.
Verboten words that are completely commonplace and mundanely acceptable outside of a certain small but powerful bubble
I’m not aware of any such bubble which forbids the use of the word “gender”. Which bubble are you referring to?
Disclaimer: I’m a queer non-binary leftist, and many of my community and loved ones are at least one of those. The closest thing to any “verboten” I’m aware of is “gender critical”, and as far as I can tell that’s mostly a term used by detractors in my own community, and even so it doesn’t reject usage of the term only usage of it distinguished from sex assigned at birth. The next most “verboten” I can think of is commonly referenced “wrong things programmers assume about ____” which generally offer no guidance other than not asking if you don’t need to know or offering open text input if you do, and in any case don’t represent a small powerful bubble of anything other than being a memorable link.