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'I want your Instagram account': a deadly campaign over coveted handles

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Re: 'I want your Instagram account': a deadly campaign over coveted handles

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I'm usually the one who gets his username due to a long-ish and odd name for the Internet (but common in India). For Instagram, I ignored it long enough, and don't have the username. Later, I signed up with my family name (a 5-character word), which also happens to be the name of a small town in India. I get regular bombardment of attempts to get to my account. Of course, it will have to be someone from my State, as the name have its meaning and importance just for the people of the state.

My accounts are not the most important. However, I'm now beginning to accept that anything can be hacked, locked, and the day I have no access to a particular account, I should be able to walked out and not care (wherever possible and makes sense). I have also begun to offload accounts/IDs to a common family entity that can be run by "trustees" instead of being a personal one.

Re: 'I want your Instagram account': a deadly campaign over coveted handles

#72

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I would be careful with the "." in your username as someone else with `firstnamelastname@gmail.com` would likely get your email. I get the emails that are my ID with the "." in between.

I thought that gmail ignored the period, and would not allow registering one of those accounts if the other one already existed.

Well then, they didn't or it is relaxed now. I'm at the receiving end.

Re: 'I want your Instagram account': a deadly campaign over coveted handles

#73

I remember getting a demand I surrender my HoTMaiL address to somebody in a very threatening email to my address way back in 1998. It was kind of surreal back then as the internet was still fresh. Nowadays the closest I've gotten to this is the people who keep using my Gmail address as their own email address. I find this behavior rather bizarre and don't know what it achieves.

Hotmail: It was really easy to "hack" hotmail during that time. I created mine in 1999 and lost in early 2000. By summer 2000, I happen to talk to a friend of a friend who works at Hotmail. I got him to reset and give me a new Password that worked. I still have my hotmail account and is used to the times when you need a Microsoft Account. Gmail: A lot of people seem to think email, then "Gmail". I get emails of at-le…

You have random strangers typing in your exact email address thinking they own it?

Re: 'I want your Instagram account': a deadly campaign over coveted handles

#74

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That isn't a solution, because people who want to have a memorable/unique username are not interested in sharing it with others, and they will move to a platform where they don't have to. Probably part of Twitter's appeal early on was the ability to get there early and grab up an account like @cookies or @milk.

I guess we as a society have to decide if we want a market on usernames. I don't think we need it. And if the majority of users agree and switch to a platform that doesn't value usernames, then the few people trying to monopolize usernames (like the people who swarmed to twitter to grab handles) will be left on a barren platform.

Absolutely. I only said that what was referred to as an "easy solution" isn't.

Re: 'I want your Instagram account': a deadly campaign over coveted handles

#75

Wow. I have a 6 letter Instagram account handle that actually matches a popular (Western) name and initial out there. So far I get about one fairly polite request per month via DM to sell my handle to them, which I always decline, but lately I am seeing a rise in the number of 'password reset' emails I am getting from Instagram. It's gone from about one per week to sometimes 2 or 3 per day. That fact, plus the storie…

Similar boat here - 3 character handle (my initials), and a constant flood of password resets. I used to get a lot of offers to purchase, the highest being $20k, but those seem to have stopped lately.

Re: 'I want your Instagram account': a deadly campaign over coveted handles

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post #73

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Hotmail: It was really easy to "hack" hotmail during that time. I created mine in 1999 and lost in early 2000. By summer 2000, I happen to talk to a friend of a friend who works at Hotmail. I got him to reset and give me a new Password that worked. I still have my hotmail account and is used to the times when you need a Microsoft Account. Gmail: A lot of people seem to think email, then "Gmail". I get emails of at-le…

You have random strangers typing in your exact email address thinking they own it?

1. They have used "." in between the usernames which I have full access to.

2. They gave that as their email (Gmail) ID when the banks, ISPs, asked and the institutes never validated it. To the other Brajeshwars, they are like "Oh! Email/Gmail, then it must be brajeshwar@gmail.com." But then I end up getting their emails.

Re: 'I want your Instagram account': a deadly campaign over coveted handles

#77
post #39

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People routinely try to get HN ones, albeit by politely emailing.

Out of curiosity, what's your policy in these situations?

We make them earn it. Here's a typical email I send in response to such requests:

"We do sometimes recycle usernames when they're well and truly dormant, i.e. no logins for many years. But we only do this for established community members.

What I usually tell people in situations like this is to create a new account and build up a track record of being a good community contributor, and that if they do that, they're welcome to email again in the future and ask us to recycle the old username for them. We can always rename your account at that point."

If someone is already a good community contributor and has already built up such a track record, we're more likely to give them what they want. But only if the username they're asking for has shown no sign of life for many years.

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Edit: the above comment generated quite a few emails, which has forced me to think about what makes me uncomfortable about this. Here it is:

Obvious/hot usernames don't really fit the intended spirit of this site, which is (intellectual) curiosity: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor.... That spirit is more likely to come up with a new, creative username than to seek the one that's better for branding or vanity.

Branding is about being obvious and repeating things. That's out of sync with the spirit of this site. Similarly, vanity—though perfectly human and something we all have—is not particularly sympatico with curiosity. Put those together and you get the worst of both: "personal branding", which is particularly boring and uncurious.

Curious conversation is about some $thing that is interesting. It is not about $me, and when $thing is merely a means to $me (or $my-startup or $buy-what-im-selling), that's lame. You can usually feel it and smell it in the content, too, because the content wasn't produced out of interest or for its own sake.

Optimizing HN for curiosity (see link above) is a constant fight against the forces of promotion, which forever seek to pull people's attention away from things that are actually interesting and glue it instead to ulterior matters like marketing and messaging and sales. I'm not saying those things are bad in any absolute sense, but they're bad relative to the mandate of this site.

So this whole thing of "can I please have me this generic / obvious / presumably-high-status username that hasn't posted anything since 2008" makes me feel like someone doesn't really get what HN is for, and I get queasy.

Re: 'I want your Instagram account': a deadly campaign over coveted handles

#78
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> Nowadays the closest I've gotten to this is the people who keep using my Gmail address as their own email address. I find this behavior rather bizarre and don't know what it achieves. I have this problem also! I thought it was rare. In my case I think the person is very bad with computers and doesn't know what their email address is. I've gotten emails from their bank, cell phone, and even online dating. I tried ma…

I had some person's client email me regularly for years, which I ignored. One day I decided to take action and sent a expletive filled email to them telling them that I was not the person they thought I was and to stop emailing me. They then sent me an email telling me I was fired.

Quick, tell them where you want your last paycheck sent...

Re: 'I want your Instagram account': a deadly campaign over coveted handles

#79
post #50

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I think one of the issues is spoofing numbers is still not prevented by the miserable US telecoms. That allows these people to spoof calls and swat the target, worst case.

The article mentions Instagram DMs. I don’t think those could be spoofed. Law enforcement would have to care and Instagram would need to get a subpoena, but they should be able to provide a lot of info on the account that sent the message (geoip, behavior, etc).

I think not many PDs would invest resources trying to avoid some private person’s username from being stolen. I’d be upset if it happened to me but I doubt anyone else would care.

Re: 'I want your Instagram account': a deadly campaign over coveted handles

#80
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I grabbed a short 2-letter Twitter handle within a few months after they launched. A few years ago I had someone used SIM hijacking to steal access to my phone number. This failed to get access to my Twitter account because I never set up a recovery phone number, however he got access to my Facebook and a few other accounts. I got T-Mobile to fix the SIM swap, but after 3 nights of harassment I just changed my handle…

How would they know the phone number associated with your account?
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