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Role of Lactobacillus Reuteri in Human Health and Diseases

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Re: Role of Lactobacillus Reuteri in Human Health and Diseases

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Post by v4dok »

XorNot wrote: post #52
v4dok wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There was once a research group in a university that found a specific diet helping/curing crohn's. However a food/health conglomerate with a product in the market for the disease paid the professor to shelf the research and it never saw the light of day. Speaking with one of the researchers he keeps telling me that food diversity and gut microbiome are extremely important for all shorts of things. So your comment doe…

Why is the parent comment not being downvoted to oblivion? It is making specific, deterministic claims and providing absolutely no sources whatsoever. How does the OP know? Which university was it? Which research group? If "a research group" "found something worked" then there would be a trail of research papers leading up to whatever the patentable invention is. This anecdote is a complete fabrication : events like…

1. I don't win anything by accusing a conglomerate with names on the internet. I don't mind being downvoted "to oblivion". I think I haven't because anyone interacting with such organisations imagines that this is not conspiracy, its business 2. I want to clarify that the company didn't say "we pay you X to keep it unpublished" they said "Oh thats interesting, we want to buy it to develop something based on it" and then they did nothing with it because it would canibalize their market. 3. Students that worked on this knew it, but they did nothing about it, the one I know the story from told me "what could I do? I finished my thesis and left, it was above me" and he actually works on a pharma now. I imagine being a vocal ethicist in this field would have left him without a job. Not something many people can afford.

Re: Role of Lactobacillus Reuteri in Human Health and Diseases

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Post by xtracto »

jamal-kumar wrote: post #20

Just reposting my original comment which may have inspired this post a few days ago for the links: I had really bad IBS from consuming water on a tropical island in Panama one time and suffered for a few years with even my doctor friend telling me "Damn that sucks, not much you can do except manage". Pretty horrible symptoms until I discovered L. Reuteri. [1] I read that it's been a bacteria that was more commonly fo…

I suffered from terrible IBS-C for over 20 years, and just about 6 months ago I stumbled upon some probiotics called Xaviax [1] (specifically their Mexican brand, called Pavia). Since taking them, my life has changed. I had taken other kinds of probiotics, prebiotics and done everything you can imagine in the 20 years I've had this condition. Now I feel way way better.

Just got a box of L. reuteri, hopefully it will make me feel even better.

[1] https://xaviax.com/

Re: Role of Lactobacillus Reuteri in Human Health and Diseases

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Post by blacksmith_tb »

Luc wrote: post #47
jamal-kumar wrote: post #20

Just reposting my original comment which may have inspired this post a few days ago for the links: I had really bad IBS from consuming water on a tropical island in Panama one time and suffered for a few years with even my doctor friend telling me "Damn that sucks, not much you can do except manage". Pretty horrible symptoms until I discovered L. Reuteri. [1] I read that it's been a bacteria that was more commonly fo…

Thank you for your post. I bought the product you used and had my first tablet 10 minutes ago. https://www.biogaia.com/product-country/biogaia-protectis-ch... One thing that might interest people on the FODMAP diet is that the first ingredients on the list are isomalt (probably ok) and xylitol (an artificial sweetener). Hopefully the amounts are small enough not to trigger symptoms. There's also 'Bacilac Femina' whic…

Xylitol isn't 'artificial'[1] (but it is bad for dogs). In small amounts I would be surprised if it would affect anyone negatively, I often have 5-10g in my oats, but all the sugar alcohols make your guts unhappy in large doses (I find erythritol is the worst, but sorbitol from pears is famous for doing that to babies).

1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xylitol#Structure,_production,...

Re: Role of Lactobacillus Reuteri in Human Health and Diseases

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Post by BizarroLand »

adrianN wrote: post #46
boffinAudio wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It wouldn't be the first time Big Pharma did something harmful to society in order to protect its profit margins. You don't seriously think there is a moral stance that leads one to conclude Big Pharma is benevolent and always looking out for humanity?

Even for actors that I personally believe to be evil, I like to have more evidence than "there is this dude who was paid not to published, trust me".

I would say that Big Food hiring food scientists to specifically tune the flavor profile of mass manufactured foods to never trigger satiation so that people would not stop eating them even when they are mechanically full is pretty evil.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/food-cravings-engineered-by-i...

Add in that most food doesn't taste like real food anymore and is engineered to make us crave more:

https://www.vox.com/2015/7/30/9070255/dorito-effect

And you have a perfect recipe for evil.

Big food came into existence thanks to scientific advancements that enabled the world to meet the needs of its population, and that's a good thing. Fertilizers and industrial agriculture has been a massive boon to most of the world, but allowing companies that have private shareholders to commandeer the ship and start steering it in a way that best benefits those shareholders over the best interests of the rest of the world has, in my opinion, created a system that has turned a great good into a perfidious evil.

Re: Role of Lactobacillus Reuteri in Human Health and Diseases

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Post by m463 »

cvg wrote: post #16
jimbru wrote: post #2

For anyone interested in L. Reuteri, you can buy it in the U.S. as Gerber probiotic drops ( https://medical.gerber.com/products/supplements/soothe-colic... ). Marketed for babies but obviously works on adults too. Last I checked Gerber had an exclusive license on U.S. distribution of this bacterium—there’s a Swedish company, BioGaia, that IIRC is the original patent holder.

This probiotic at Costco also has reuteri, “trunature Advanced Digestive Probiotic”. 15$ per 100 caps https://www.costco.com/trunature-advanced-digestive-probioti...

also costco has "garden of life" probiotics with it too

Re: Role of Lactobacillus Reuteri in Human Health and Diseases

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Post by parhamn »

TedDoesntTalk wrote: post #13
parhamn wrote: post #3

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Thanks, I came to ask this. It seems like the probiotic market is largely a hit or miss. Reviews online are filled with people claiming their purchases failed milk culturing tests (I don't know if testing as such even works), claims that these bacteria can't survive on warehouse shelves, etc.

That’s why Visbiome ships in insulated packaging with ice packs. There’s even a color indicator that turns red if the contents exceed a temperature during shipping (and refunds are granted if this indicator is red when it receive the product). You then store in the freezer. Unfortunately, the product does not contain L. Reuteri.

Have you used it? Are you satisfied?

Re: Role of Lactobacillus Reuteri in Human Health and Diseases

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Post by Luc »

blacksmith_tb wrote: post #73
Luc wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thank you for your post. I bought the product you used and had my first tablet 10 minutes ago. https://www.biogaia.com/product-country/biogaia-protectis-ch... One thing that might interest people on the FODMAP diet is that the first ingredients on the list are isomalt (probably ok) and xylitol (an artificial sweetener). Hopefully the amounts are small enough not to trigger symptoms. There's also 'Bacilac Femina' whic…

Xylitol isn't 'artificial'[1] (but it is bad for dogs). In small amounts I would be surprised if it would affect anyone negatively, I often have 5-10g in my oats, but all the sugar alcohols make your guts unhappy in large doses (I find erythritol is the worst, but sorbitol from pears is famous for doing that to babies). 1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xylitol#Structure,_production,...

Perhaps 'less digestible sweetener' would be a better way of putting it. It's a shame you don't believe it would affect people with chronic digestive issues.

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Post by password4321 »

jamal-kumar wrote: post #19
chasebank wrote: post #7

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I've been in deep research after reading that comment. Thought it was interesting this story popped up today. Coincidence or astroturf? Been dealing with gastro issues for 4+ years now. I'll report back after I take the stuff for a month.

Hi OP of the comment here. I linked a bunch of studies as well as providing my own anecdotal evidence that this stuff worked well enough that I had IBS symptoms reversed by taking this probiotic. My friends who I have introduced this to really like it, too. I'm actually super interested in learning how to make yogurt with it now to help people I know who may be suffering out some. I hear that's a really easy way to m…

Appreciate your willingness to share.

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Post by TedDoesntTalk »

parhamn wrote: post #77
TedDoesntTalk wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s why Visbiome ships in insulated packaging with ice packs. There’s even a color indicator that turns red if the contents exceed a temperature during shipping (and refunds are granted if this indicator is red when it receive the product). You then store in the freezer. Unfortunately, the product does not contain L. Reuteri.

Have you used it? Are you satisfied?

Yes I use it regularly. But I don’t have IBS, Crohns, or any other GI disorder. I use it to periodically populate my gut. So to answer “am I satisfied” is difficult. I don’t notice a difference with or without it, because none of us are consciously aware of our gut micro biome. I could say “well I haven’t been sick in years”, but who knows what else contributes to that.
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