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You replied question 2 with question 1: we don't self host email, -because- of deliverability issues.
why are they in the first place?
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It sure was an excellent purchase -- one of the most secure services available world-wide, operated in the EU with strong privacy and completely outside US jurisdiction. You weren't able to collect your emails for a brief 5 minutes, but you'll live.
Hello from Switzerland :) We are not in the EU not just "technically" but as a fact. None of these agreement covers the exchange of private emails or metadata with the EU.
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#74Their statement yesterday:
Yesterday we unfortunately experienced technical difficulties which meant that Proton services were offline intermittently throughout the late afternoon and evening European time. During this period, incoming email, outgoing email, and push notifications were also temporarily delayed. As of 2:45AM Geneva time, all emails and notifications are caught up, but we are continuing to monitor the situation in case of further faults.
We can confirm that no data and no emails were lost. Due to our redundant infrastructure, emails that were not immediately delivered were queued and automatically redelivered. We are still investigating the issue, but what we can share so far is that the technical difficulties were caused by a software update that was conducted over the weekend which adversely impacted the performance of certain systems. Unfortunately, this issue only appeared under under high loads which we were not able to fully simulate in testing. Furthermore, because this was a major software and operating system upgrade, there was no way to roll back the software update.
This result of this was an extended period of intermittent outages and performance issues while we tried to work around the issue. We have now put a number of safeguards in place, and will continue to improve the reliability of our infrastructure to guard against this type of issue in the future. We apologize deeply for this issue and thank you again for your understanding. Our engineering team is currently conducting a root cause analysis and for transparency, we will be sharing results on the Proton blog after our investigation is complete.
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#77>there was no way to roll back the software update oof >During this period, incoming email, outgoing email, and push notifications were also temporarily delayed They say no data was lost but I'm not sure how they can know a sending mail server didn't give up trying to deliver a message to Proton
It would be surprising if a the SMTP retry timeout of the average sending server was less than the duration of this outage. This is not to say there is no cause for concern, but SMTP was built for scenarios like this, at a time when these things happened far more often.
I wonder if there are any global standards, requirements recommendations about m the minimum retry count or timeout.