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Re: Google says US employees can relocate to states with abortion rights

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VistaBrokeMyPC wrote: post #59
koolba wrote: post #43

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> You know these 24 weeks aren't a vacation, right? I never claimed it was. It’s a time to bond with your child and get acclimated to new responsibilities. That Google offers 24 weeks of maternity leave is something should be lauded, not vilified. > They're about 100x more demanding then the average tech job, and on-call 24/7. Not to mention that after the 24 weeks are up, you still have another unpaid (in fact, you…

>There is nothing great about abortion. And ease and normalization of abortion for convenience has contributed to way to many over the past fifty years. We've been doing abortions for millennia, only in the past century did we start doing safe ones. I'd be less pissed about this ruling if those in support of it would fund neonatal care and social welfare systems to support a baby that may come into this world with a…

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Post by fumar »

KMag wrote: post #65
fumar wrote: post #41

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I recently declined an Apple role that required Austin relocation. I like Austin and considered the move, but ultimately my family is my priority. We can't risk moving to a tech hub in a blistering red state with growing regulation on personhood. I told the recruiter Apple needs to reconsider where it plans to do long-term business.

My understanding is that Austin is actually politically moderate, though the strong authoritarianism is much more troubling to me than the heavy political slant.

That is my understanding as well. Austin itself feels like a city plucked out of blue state, but I didn't want to risk being caught in the growing Texan zeal with nowhere to go.

Re: Google says US employees can relocate to states with abortion rights

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Post by arroz »

sJ646U9k6c6gME9 wrote: post #11
JKCalhoun wrote: post #8

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I assumed it was a decision relating to a woman's reproductive rights. To suggest it is a business decision is sort of debasing?

For-profit companies don’t care about anyone’s rights. To believe otherwise is naive.

For-profit companies are ruled by people, not robots, so it depends.

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Post by galangalalgol »

jollybean wrote: post #53
karmasimida wrote: post #30

This makes sense. I fully agree with Google on sticking to this one. Do NOT fund states that suppress our rights.

Does that include gun rights? I'm empathetic to the sentiment, but I think we have to be a bit proportional about this kind of stuff, because 'our rights' is a really, really broad thing, and every issue is different. For example, if this were more of a perfunctory argument about state vs. federal rights, and SCOTUS was really consistent about it, and this was a social issue that got caught up in a legal issue ... an…

The left fears guns and tries to ban them, the right fears ideas and bans books from schools. The book V for vendetta has the line "ideas are bulletproof" so maybe the right is on to something? V is one of the books TX banned interestingly. But if you put a bullet through every NN that has the offending weights you will find ideas are not in fact bulletproof. Sadly our species has done this a few times to confirm.

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Post by diob »

imgabe wrote: post #58
jleyank wrote: post #25

Ignoring abortion, I suspect that states without contraception, IVF or gay rights will be of less interest to a significant portion of the tech workforce. Companies would have to provide alternatives unless they want to limit their hiring to red state natives. Good argument for wfh to get talent that just won’t go there. Note that most contraceptives prevent implantation and IVF creates more embryos than needed. Both…

> Note that most contraceptives prevent implantation and IVF creates more embryos than needed. Both are no-no’s under the new regime. Do you have any examples of specific laws of in any states that would make contraception or IVF illegal? Most pro-life people are very supportive of IVF as they are all about people having more babies. Many states with anti-abortion laws also have laws explicitly making surrogacy legal…

It's not about making it illegal, it's that IVF typically results in more fertilized embryos than are kept.

So like you said, the pro-life folks would force every single one to be kept.

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Post by SantalBlush »

unmole wrote: post #66
grapeskin wrote: post #27

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It's odd how many corporations have policies to help their employees escape the laws of places like Texas and Florida, but they're more than happy to relocate their offices to those states for small tax reductions. If they're truly against these policies, gutting those states of thousands of high earning jobs and refusing to build any new offices is the most effective way to do it. The Russian sanctions actually surp…

Relocating to low tax jurisdictions and boosting employee morale both contribute towards creating long term shareholder value. > The Russian sanctions actually surprised me in that a lot of corporations actually pulled out and fast. Companies either pulled out because they were legally obligated (That's what sanctions are) or they wanted to avoid reputational damage to their brands. Again, rational self interest. Cor…

This is completely made up. Corporations take political positions all the time; it's why they hire lobbyists. Taking political positions is part of business.

Your statement really could not be further from the truth.

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Post by metadat »

ra7 wrote: post #64
JKCalhoun wrote: post #29

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Texas didn't look quite as insane a decade or so ago when Apple began ramping up their Austin offices. I wonder how Apple feels now though.

Google also just built a brand new building in downtown Austin that will house a few thousand people.

And Oracle.

Ugh.

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Post by xanaxagoras »

kjfdpoisfjkds wrote: post #50
JKCalhoun wrote: post #12

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Honestly, Apple should be dialing down investment in Texas.

Will they dial down investment in nations with far worse human rights or is this just virtue signaling?

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Post by epistasis »

karmasimida wrote: post #30

This makes sense. I fully agree with Google on sticking to this one. Do NOT fund states that suppress our rights.

When NYC PD was doing stop and frisk, pretty much nobody suggested that we boycott NUC based companies.

This is all about status and which states we view as beneath our own. Trying to do economic sanctions as a whole has not been effective in recent state-wide rights deprivation legislation, and I don't think it will do much here either.

We need to expand the court, have a civil war, or something like that. (I'm not sure if I'm kidding anymore, talking to relatives in red states shows a seething hatred of people with my beliefs that makes me think that at any moment all these people may take up arms like on Jan 6. It certainly seems like many have very violent thoughts and view the world as based on gun violence, and think that their blue state "enemies" will come for them wi try guns just as they fantasize about whipping out there own. It's truly sick)

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