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2022 Cloud Report

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Re: 2022 Cloud Report

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Post by sa46 »

echelon wrote: post #64
candiddevmike wrote: post #20

Wonder how cockroach is doing these days with all the competition in the space.

I don't follow their product closely. Who are their competitors? (If I were in the market for their database and the alternatives were close in parity and price, I'd be likely to choose a competitor for the name not being "cockroach" alone.)

Other globally consistent NewSQL DBs: Spanner, TiDB, Yugabyte, SingleStore

Partitioning for existing DBs: Citus for Postgres and Vitess for MySQL.

Snowflake apparently just started to target transactional workloads with UniStore.

Re: 2022 Cloud Report

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Post by colinmhayes »

DeathArrow wrote: post #54
hesdeadjim wrote: post #14

As a AMD fanboy who loves seeing them back on top, I’m just happy we have a competitive CPU market now. I’ll include the M-series from Apple as well, despite being platform locked, because it also forces the other players to up their game. I would love to see an AMD chip as fully integrated as an M1, moving the RAM fully on die and part of the Infinity fabric directly. The insane memory bandwidth of the M1 is what ke…

>As a AMD fanboy who loves seeing them back on top I am not a fanboy, but a realistic dude. AMD ruled the last years but Alder Lake overtook Vermeer on both performance and price/performance. And that is with a process node difference, Intel using 10nm vs AMD using 7nm. And the future looks like Intel will enhance the distance between its performance and AMD's.

Alder Lake and zen 3 are on comparable processes. Intel 10nm, now renamed Intel 7, has pretty much the same density as tsmc 7nm.

Re: 2022 Cloud Report

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Post by thisiswrongggg »

echelon wrote: post #64
candiddevmike wrote: post #20

Wonder how cockroach is doing these days with all the competition in the space.

I don't follow their product closely. Who are their competitors? (If I were in the market for their database and the alternatives were close in parity and price, I'd be likely to choose a competitor for the name not being "cockroach" alone.)

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Re: 2022 Cloud Report

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Post by colinmhayes »

Thaxll wrote: post #38
matdehaast wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Last I checked cockroach don’t support ARM binaries. Probably means they thought not worth the effort to do the analysis on those instances as it doesn’t help for their offering

It does supports ARM. It's a Go project so it should except if they do exotic things.

I work on a similar product to cockroach. We inject assembly into our code, wouldn't be surprised if they do too.

Re: 2022 Cloud Report

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Post by dsiegel2275 »

Queue29 wrote: post #23

This blog post is literally unreadable with animations flying around covering up content, is that by design?

The JavaScript console is your friend:

document.querySelectorAll('.aos-init').forEach(e => e.remove())

The above will remove all of those popups.

Re: 2022 Cloud Report

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Post by estambar »

michaelmior wrote: post #70
echelon wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't follow their product closely. Who are their competitors? (If I were in the market for their database and the alternatives were close in parity and price, I'd be likely to choose a competitor for the name not being "cockroach" alone.)

I'm curious what it is about the name Cockroach that turns you off. I assume the name is intended to give the impression that the DB is hard to kill.

^^THIS

Re: 2022 Cloud Report

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Post by FairlyInvolved »

BLanen wrote: post #69
fauigerzigerk wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ASML deserves mentioning as well.

No. Monopolies don't deserve credit.

They hold a monopoly of merit, many tried EUV and they succeeded in doing something that others were calling impossible even 5 years before they shipped it, not by shutting down competition but simply because no one else could.

The idea that ASML would somehow be more worthy of merit if Nikon/Canon also succeeded is weird.

Would the moon landing me more impressive if Russia and Japan also managed it?

Re: 2022 Cloud Report

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Post by FairlyInvolved »

colinmhayes wrote: post #72
DeathArrow wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>As a AMD fanboy who loves seeing them back on top I am not a fanboy, but a realistic dude. AMD ruled the last years but Alder Lake overtook Vermeer on both performance and price/performance. And that is with a process node difference, Intel using 10nm vs AMD using 7nm. And the future looks like Intel will enhance the distance between its performance and AMD's.

Alder Lake and zen 3 are on comparable processes. Intel 10nm, now renamed Intel 7, has pretty much the same density as tsmc 7nm.

And N7 is almost certainly cheaper (holistically) than Intel 7, from an economic perspective AMD have done more with less.

Re: 2022 Cloud Report

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Post by coder543 »

DeathArrow wrote: post #54
hesdeadjim wrote: post #14

As a AMD fanboy who loves seeing them back on top, I’m just happy we have a competitive CPU market now. I’ll include the M-series from Apple as well, despite being platform locked, because it also forces the other players to up their game. I would love to see an AMD chip as fully integrated as an M1, moving the RAM fully on die and part of the Infinity fabric directly. The insane memory bandwidth of the M1 is what ke…

>As a AMD fanboy who loves seeing them back on top I am not a fanboy, but a realistic dude. AMD ruled the last years but Alder Lake overtook Vermeer on both performance and price/performance. And that is with a process node difference, Intel using 10nm vs AMD using 7nm. And the future looks like Intel will enhance the distance between its performance and AMD's.

I think Intel stands to regain some lost ground over the next year or two, but Alder Lake isn't a compelling argument in a datacenter-focused discussion.

Alder Lake relies on brute force, inefficient power consumption to regain the performance crown. AMD's chips are much more efficient, and efficiency matters in datacenters. There is only so much power and cooling available to each rack unit.

I think Sapphire Rapids holds a lot of promise, but it remains to be seen.

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