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Many single Japanese people in their 20s have never been on a date – survey

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Re: Many single Japanese people in their 20s have never been on a date – survey

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Interesting that 27.3% of women have a lover, but 19.1% of men do. Does that mean more lesbian activity or perhaps successful men taking more than one female? Any thoughts on this discrepancy?

One reductive way to view Western (straight) dating culture:

- the women are competing for top ~10% of men, who almost always will have multiple casual partners at any given time because of this

- the (other 90% of) men are competing for the top 50% of women

It's a mess of poorly defined and misaligned interests. This leads to tension and stereotypes ("all men are assholes! all women are harlots!") and sexual inequality.

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I'm 22 and have never been on a date or anything resembling one. I'm not too worried about it, though the potential "skill gap" (for lack of a better word) with future partners does concern me a bit I have to admit.

Mens value in the dating marketplace goes up over time. If you are relatively sane, sober and employed around 28, mother nature helps you out with her biological alarm clock. Keep your head up, it's going to get easier from here on out.

To be honest this reply smells like "man-o-sphere" logic...

PSA: To anyone struggling with this please try and ignore any advice online that focuses on the opposite sex and their inherent value (or lack thereof). Actually talking to the opposite sex even in a casual way is a really good way to get over this type of thinking.

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How have ~5% of married men never been on a date? Is the chart just imprecise?

I am married, never dated in the normal sense. Met a girl, spent time doing normal things with her, we decided we got along well enough to get married. Coming up on three years, seems to work pretty well.

"Spent time doing normal things with her" what does that even mean if not "dating"?

What's "dating in the normal sense"?

Re: Many single Japanese people in their 20s have never been on a date – survey

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Equally disturbing is the fact that many married men are being encouraged to participate in a permanent state of ersatz courtship known as 'date nights'. What's the point of getting married if you still have to go on dates? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm1HgQbXFEE

Because dates are supposed to be fun - the best kind of a date should be with your married partner - no 'do they like me' debate running through your head, no 'I wonder what they look like naked'. You can be completely comfortable with each other.

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The government and the media keep freaking out about birth rate declining but made no attempts in fixing the poor working conditions in Japan. Who wants to date, marry, or have kids if you can barely live your life?

Even elon strangely dismissed that obvious cause when it was pointed out under his pinned tweet https://twitter.com/BillyM2k/status/1529125347148455937 (elons explanation doesn't make any sense).

Ideology gets in the way of truth on this one.

One side doesn't want to admit that a lot of poor people have a good bit of free time available to them, particularly those who receive social services.

The other side doesn't want to admit that middle class and up folks have been working long hours at a cost to their personal lives and development, that isn't new, but now both mom and dad are doing it and households aren't really any better off.

This results in poor people with the time to make and raise children, doing so and receiving government subsidies to provide for them. The problem is the government can't give you time or your youth back so the well off just stopped having kids.

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Interesting that 27.3% of women have a lover, but 19.1% of men do. Does that mean more lesbian activity or perhaps successful men taking more than one female? Any thoughts on this discrepancy?

since the dawn of time there have been more single men than women

and Genghis Khans

Re: Many single Japanese people in their 20s have never been on a date – survey

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Interesting that 27.3% of women have a lover, but 19.1% of men do. Does that mean more lesbian activity or perhaps successful men taking more than one female? Any thoughts on this discrepancy?

I'd say men having multiple partners. Especially with the proliferation of dating apps which make it easier to play the numbers game.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same here (European, btw, not Japanese). I've only ever been on one "date" in my lifetime. The rest of my mating life has always been in the context of friend groups, rather than 1:1 meetings in some public place. Things that I have done that I don't consider a date: - meeting up at a friends' house while both knowing the other would be there, then leaving together afterwards (not 1:1) - just meeting up after class/w…

How is going out to dinner with your steady partner not the most unambiguous example of a date?

I've gone out to dinner with my mother and long-term friends, but I'm not dating any of them. Sometimes eating is just eating.

Re: Many single Japanese people in their 20s have never been on a date – survey

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Equally disturbing is the fact that many married men are being encouraged to participate in a permanent state of ersatz courtship known as 'date nights'. What's the point of getting married if you still have to go on dates? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm1HgQbXFEE

If you're not joking, I think the reasons are pretty clear. As a cis straight man, it's a useful way to signal your partner's importance to you. It's an opportunity for your partner to make herself look good and get dressed up which improves her mood and well being. It's also a good way to avoid letting all your time being doing your own thing or sitting around on your phones and make it clear that you aren't taking your partner or the relationship for granted
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