Unfortunately, I guess I've reached the stage of my life where there are only three choices I actually would recognize out of the entire selection
15.ai
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#72I appreciate the intent, and I understand that many people will do the wrong thing so this was probably an attempt to get such folks to actually read and adhere to the TOS, but the obnoxious consent dialog with a mandatory countdown turned me off. It’s probably not effective, either. On desktop, maybe I’d open dev tools and remove it. On mobile, I won’t be bothered. I hate that this is what the web has become and I c…
Weird, I read through the text because I care about how I’m allowed to use the things people are giving me – and by the time I got to the Accept button, it was enabled.
I guess the creator added that specifically for the YouTubers and TikTokers who failed to credit the site: https://twitter.com/fifteenai/status/1522289980420337666
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#73The copyright laws around this are fascinating. They're adamant it must be non-commercial, they must be credited, and it can't be mixed with any other generated content. Meanwhile their content is exclusively derived from popular commercial products. Oh and they also make money via Patreon donations. I dunno. Feels a little gross to me. Eventually there is going to be a big copyright case about a model trained with c…
Also he admits to doing all of that or at least a majority of the work while under the funding of MIT...
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#74The copyright laws around this are fascinating. They're adamant it must be non-commercial, they must be credited, and it can't be mixed with any other generated content. Meanwhile their content is exclusively derived from popular commercial products. Oh and they also make money via Patreon donations. I dunno. Feels a little gross to me. Eventually there is going to be a big copyright case about a model trained with c…
“Make money”? The creator loses several thousands of dollars a month hosting the site, and it’s done for free. The Patreon donations are all voluntary and only offer a pittance to the developer. I highly suggest reading into the project first. The Wiki article I linked before ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/15.ai ) answers all of your questions about copyright infringement.
Feel free to replace "make money" with "collect revenue". This is currently a research project (with funding). However it's long-term goal is to achieve commercial quality voice acting and dubbing. It could be given away for free, sold directly, sold downstream, sold indirectly, or otherwise generate commercial value.
In terms of copyright infringement, your wiki link answers nothing. A court ruled that Google could use copyrighted book text to train an algorithm to improve search results because the copying was highly transformative and did not serve as a market substitute to the original work.
Meanwhile 15.ai is using copyrighted voice recordings to train an algorithm to synthesize new voice recordings that sound like they came from the original speaker. This is radically different from the Google case. Just because one instance of using copyrighted material to train an algorithm qualifies as fair use does not mean that all use of copyright material to train any algorithm also qualifies as fair use.
There is absolutely nothing about this that is settled law. In the next 20 years there are going to be lots of lawsuits, lots of settlements, possibly a few rulings, and maybe even a few new laws. I find the whole topic very interesting. YMMV.
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#75First randomly generated text was "Have you read your SICP today?"
Brings back fond memories of /prog/ and all its nonsense. Praise The Sussman!
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#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
to the Deep Foo pattern in deep learning naming, more likely.
Why not both at once?
Sill nothing to top 'DeepCreamPy' https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29737049
Re: 15.ai
#77I appreciate the intent, and I understand that many people will do the wrong thing so this was probably an attempt to get such folks to actually read and adhere to the TOS, but the obnoxious consent dialog with a mandatory countdown turned me off. It’s probably not effective, either. On desktop, maybe I’d open dev tools and remove it. On mobile, I won’t be bothered. I hate that this is what the web has become and I c…
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#78I appreciate the intent, and I understand that many people will do the wrong thing so this was probably an attempt to get such folks to actually read and adhere to the TOS, but the obnoxious consent dialog with a mandatory countdown turned me off. It’s probably not effective, either. On desktop, maybe I’d open dev tools and remove it. On mobile, I won’t be bothered. I hate that this is what the web has become and I c…
I closed the page at the 15 second count down.
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#80They named their tts "Deep Throat"? Why would you?
I came back to the HN comments to ask the same thing, when I saw that.
I think this is kinda edgy humor that can work in small, select groups.
But maybe in most contexts in which people will be looking at AI method tech demos (e.g., within a company, or researchers at a university), we're still feeling ongoing effects of multi-generational injustices. In such a context, no one wants to be associating to ideas of women around some infamous '70s porn film. Doing that, and making light of it, seems like it'd rightly bother a lot of people.
When you're focused on a project, and maybe first discussing/showing in one small group, it can be easy to forget there are many additional things going on outside that group, some of which we also want to consider. I've made that mistake multiple times, including with the wrong humor for a context, still cringe when I think of instances of it, and this looks like that to me.
Maybe the developer will see this discussion, and decide to change some things, ASAP. It might still be relatively easy to change. (Maybe doable before Monday business hours, in the time zone of the university mentioned prominently.)