Does anyone know if popular job platforms out there use your location to determine whether or not to show the salary information for a job posting? Or is it usually something that have to request once you can establish that you're a resident of Colorado?
Microsoft will include pay ranges in all U.S. job postings
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#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
I pretty sure if you headquartered your marijuana company in a state where it's illegal you'd run into problems, even if you didn't grow or sell it in that state.
I don’t think that’s true?
"Conspiracy to commit drug trafficking" would probably fit the bill. I think they could just call in the feds because from the state and federal perspective you are running a drug empire from that office.
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#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
“Software Engineer I - 40-250k”
anything preventing them from doing very large ranges like that?
Nothing I see in the bill [1] says what an acceptable range is.
1: https://app.leg.wa.gov/billsummary?BillNumber=5761&Year=2021...
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#74Just to play Devil's Advocate: being explicit about salaries is the kind of practice that sounds amazingly good on the surface, but might have some unintended real-world consequences. For instance, whereas before when salaries weren't explicit, a weaker candidate with some good qualities who was on the bubble for consideration might be able to get a job if the salary was more favorable than the company was initially…
Most companies have explicit and firm salary ranges for positions already -- I would bet MS is one of them. They just didn't put them in the job postings until now.
Most companies the size of MS, yeah
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#75$100k - $5 Million is a valid range
Pay bands are the minimum and maximum that employees at a specific level are paid. So this only works if a company is legitimately going to hire people for $5MM a year and/or have existing employees at that level paid that amount.
Also, such large pay bands will raise eyebrows, as they are indicative of discrimination. Why such wildly different wages for the same role?
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#76This is the way. We need more of this. I'm at a point where if a recruiter messages me "about an exciting opportunity" without any salary information, he/she will not get a response. While there are some jobs that maybe I would consider a pay cut for, I generally want to make more money because that allows me to invest more so I can be free one day.
If you do follow up and eventually ask for a salary range, expect vague terms like “competitive” or “market rate”.
The correct way to interpret this is "Silicon Valley competitive/market rate".
The reaction you'll get is hilarious in some cases.
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#77This is the way. We need more of this. I'm at a point where if a recruiter messages me "about an exciting opportunity" without any salary information, he/she will not get a response. While there are some jobs that maybe I would consider a pay cut for, I generally want to make more money because that allows me to invest more so I can be free one day.
I get ~4 recruiter emails a day and I don't think I have ever seen the salary in the initial job description. If the job looks interesting I will just reply asking what the salary is. Usually they immediately call me rather than respond via email which is pretty annoying.
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#78About salaries at Microsoft. I interviewed with them this year.
I did a Codility test, followed by four interviews with four US based teams.
I got an offer which is 5 to 6 times what they pay in US.
I live in a country in Eastern Europe, and prices are a bit lower. I would have expected a lower offer, but not that much lower. It was less than I already make so I had to wish them good luck in finding another person and was feeling sorry that I lost so much time in the interviewing process and also invested a lot of energy.
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#80About salaries at Microsoft. I interviewed with them this year. I did a Codility test, followed by four interviews with four US based teams. I got an offer which is 5 to 6 times what they pay in US. I live in a country in Eastern Europe, and prices are a bit lower. I would have expected a lower offer, but not that much lower. It was less than I already make so I had to wish them good luck in finding another person an…
I presume you mean 1/5 to 1/6th.