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Re: Apple Music is the most buggy and annoying software I use

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Post by antihero »

plonk wrote: post #7
drawkbox wrote: post #4

I like Apple Music because it integrates well with the Apple line. More importantly though it is one of the highest paying per stream to artists [1]. Streaming needs to be much more lucrative for artists and consumer choice helps that. It is nice to be able to buy the music as well if you want to support. Being part of Apple One is huge as well. The latest music streaming royalty rates are as follows. PLATFORM ROYALT…

> I like Apple Music because it integrates well with the Apple line. Is there a need to integrate with anything? All I need is to play music. Spotify is as integrated into macOS and iOS as Apple Music. > More importantly though it is one of the highest paying per stream to artists [1]. Streaming needs to be much more lucrative for artists and consumer choice helps that. Too bad they are shooting themselves in the foo…

It is highly useful having you AppleTV playing music and this to show up on your iPhone lock screen

Re: Apple Music is the most buggy and annoying software I use

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Post by pschuegr »

ninth_ant wrote: post #68
ravenstine wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because Music is anything but "first party" from Apple's perspective. A lot of people seem to have the wrong idea about Apple's software, with the exception of macOS. The point of the software is to entice the customer with a complete ecosystem. Once they've sold you their laptop they've made their money. At that point, they're not that interested in putting resources towards things like Music when their hardware con…

You’re re-treading an old line of argument that doesn’t make sense anymore especially in this context. Apple has identified services as an area they went to grow. Music is an ongoing subscription service, with plenty of competition. If they want to retain or grow their paying subscribers Apple needs to improve their software with the same attention to quality they devote to hardware.

They need to improve their software to the point that the quality/price/convenience of Apple Music is more attractive than quality/price/convenience of the alternative. Since Apple Music is basically pre-installed and you get it as part of Apple One or whatever, there is a quality gap that they can accept and still grow the service. And they will, it's just basic economics.

If anybody knows of a software company that uses their excess money to make the software better instead of beefing up their balance sheet, please, hook me up. That's where I want to work.

Re: Apple Music is the most buggy and annoying software I use

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Post by alin23 »

mr_sturd wrote: post #58
matheusmoreira wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you get local network streaming to work well? Player takes over one second to respond when I try to control the streaming from my phone. Works perfectly except for this high latency issue.

What are you using for network streaming? SnapCast is great for that - there's a delay, but only about .5s. On the home network, that is.

Second that, Snapcast is great and the multi room feature is magical. Every friend that comes over lets out a wow when they hear the music synchronized in the kitchen, living room and patio at the same time.

I also created a free app to control Snapcast with macOS keyboard shortcuts or from your iPhone/iPad: https://lowtechguys.com/volum

Re: Apple Music is the most buggy and annoying software I use

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Post by pschuegr »

carlycue wrote: post #14

The app performance of Apple Music on MacOS and iOS is an abomination. It's consistently twice as slow as Spotify, from loading playlists to loading search results and playing a song. I would be ashamed if I worked on the Apple Music team. How can a person with any self respect go to work every day and be okay with Apple Music in it's current state?

The lack of attention to detail is palpable.

But it's not just an Apple problem. It feels like the vast majority of software, you can open it up and fiddle around for a few minutes and find any number of poorly conceived UX choices not to mention straight up bugs / inconsistencies. I'm not talking "I could make this software better than they did" level stuff, just things that any reasonable person would admit don't make sense.

Re: Apple Music is the most buggy and annoying software I use

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Post by nsgi »

drawkbox wrote: post #4

I like Apple Music because it integrates well with the Apple line. More importantly though it is one of the highest paying per stream to artists [1]. Streaming needs to be much more lucrative for artists and consumer choice helps that. It is nice to be able to buy the music as well if you want to support. Being part of Apple One is huge as well. The latest music streaming royalty rates are as follows. PLATFORM ROYALT…

So if you don't like Apple Music just use another service but listen to more music?

Re: Apple Music is the most buggy and annoying software I use

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Post by whywhywhywhy »

Eric_WVGG wrote: post #8
frankjr wrote: post #2

I cancelled my subscription after the player regularly stopped emitting sound - the player would show it's playing a song and increment the progress bar but no sound was coming out. I have never had the same problem with any other player. Oh and sometimes any song would just keep buffering until I restarted the app. As far as the slowness goes, I attribute that to the fact that the app is not native, it's just some s…

Apple Music on Mac shifted from web views to native sometime in the last eighteen months, I think.

UI became painful to use when they switched from unfurling the albums in situ to going to another screen where you have to click back.

Re: Apple Music is the most buggy and annoying software I use

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Post by iggldiggl »

tannhaeuser wrote: post #63

Yeah iTunes used to be a real shitshow, having accumulated anything related to iPhone sync mgmt, media player, and a browser ofc. Then the Apple Music player came as an improvement, but still wtf: the workflow to play a title is like, search it, then wade through the results to get at your local copy (as opposed to titles on the store), then click it to arrive at the album where Apple Music doesn't select the damn ti…

> Yeah iTunes used to be a real shitshow, having accumulated anything related to iPhone sync mgmt, media player, and a browser ofc. Then the Apple Music player came as an improvement

Hmm, I'm actually glad that iTunes in its old form still lives on in Windows, because AFAIK the dedicated Podcasts app that has replaced iTunes in that regard on Macs no longer supports manually adding files as a podcast episode – something I've made heavily use of in order to get that nice listened/unlistened tracking for various radio comedy shows I've obtained through other means.

Re: Apple Music is the most buggy and annoying software I use

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Post by josephg »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #62
ysleepy wrote: post #15

The one thing that sours the entire experience for me is that songs take like 5-15s to start playing when selecting one that isn't super popular. This happens on my ipad, mac, android phone. It feels like some server is spinning up a hard drive to stream it. Apart from that, why the hell is the title and artist only shown in one line that starts scolling instead of showing multiple lines if it doesn't fit, at least i…

These streaming platforms are so bad. We had better software in the 90s and 00s. These trillion dollar corporations can't beat literally decades old technology. The only reason these little services even exist in the first place is to satisfy the whims of copyright monopolists. How many more steps backwards must this industry take before they're satisfied?

I’ve been seriously considering going back to owning a big library of mp3s. I love Spotify for its suggestions - well, when it’s not just playing the same 8 songs on repeat. And I love having my music available on all my devices.

But the experience of playing songs feels like it’s taken a big step backwards into some sort of weird corporate happy land. The fact I we still can’t remove podcasts from Spotify is ridiculous. I tried Apple Music but I bounced almost immediately because of the UI.

Re: Apple Music is the most buggy and annoying software I use

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Post by dash2 »

OskarS wrote: post #22
plonk wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I like Apple Music because it integrates well with the Apple line. Is there a need to integrate with anything? All I need is to play music. Spotify is as integrated into macOS and iOS as Apple Music. > More importantly though it is one of the highest paying per stream to artists [1]. Streaming needs to be much more lucrative for artists and consumer choice helps that. Too bad they are shooting themselves in the foo…

The integration with HomePod is very nice, I can just go ”Hey Siri, play Tom Waits” or whatever. Maybe that works with Spotify, I dunno, but the integration with Apple Music is obviously seamless, it just works.

Actually it does work with Spotify, and pretty well in my experience. I guess Apple are wary of antitrust rules.

Re: Apple Music is the most buggy and annoying software I use

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Post by jcelerier »

antihero wrote: post #71
plonk wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I like Apple Music because it integrates well with the Apple line. Is there a need to integrate with anything? All I need is to play music. Spotify is as integrated into macOS and iOS as Apple Music. > More importantly though it is one of the highest paying per stream to artists [1]. Streaming needs to be much more lucrative for artists and consumer choice helps that. Too bad they are shooting themselves in the foo…

It is highly useful having you AppleTV playing music and this to show up on your iPhone lock screen

Yet KDE connect is able to do this without requiring the use of a KDE music player, just through the use of standard MPRIS interface
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