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Microsoft Purview: Additional classifiers for Communication Compliance (preview)

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Re: Microsoft Purview: Additional classifiers for Communication Compliance (preview)

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I have zero confidence that this system is smart enough to differentiate between all these things and the legitimate variants thereof (e.g. collusion and cross team collaboration are basically indistinguishable) that companies actually want people doing or discussing and likely outnumber the bad by orders of magnitude.

Technology like this will sometimes work and many times not, and the false positives and true negatives will cause a lot of harm on the way.

Re: Microsoft Purview: Additional classifiers for Communication Compliance (preview)

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The only way this sort of thing changes is with labor organization ie unionization. The government won’t save you from efforts like this. The government represents the interests of the capital owning class. The demonization of unions is one of the most successful cases of propaganda in the last century. It’s gone so far s people who will die on the hill of Jeff Bezos paying slightly more taxes because everyone seems…

>The only way this sort of thing changes is with labor organization ie unionization. >The government won’t save you from efforts like this. The government represents the interests of the capital owning class. You realize that the power/existence of "labor organization ie unionization" is dependent on the government? Without government protection labor unions don't stand a chance.

The government stops them through things like outlawing secondary strikes.

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I'll happily use an old Office, just please splice in the "What do you want to do?" search bar so I don't have to hunt through nested menus/ribbons for some obscure formatting option I use once every 6 months.

LibreOffice is actually pretty great, it's not "run on a Pentium 100 MHz" fast but it's stable and works well for basic office spreadsheet/word processing/powerpoint tasks.

The UX is mighty rough. Last I worked heavily on Calc it wasn't terribly compatible with other spreadsheet software like gnumeric, though perhaps that has changed.

Re: Microsoft Purview: Additional classifiers for Communication Compliance (preview)

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"The leavers classifier detects messages that explicitly express intent to leave the organization, which is an early signal that may put the organization at risk of malicious or inadvertent data exfiltration upon departure". In other words "how to promote and encourage paranoid behaviors from employers" :(

Re: Microsoft Purview: Additional classifiers for Communication Compliance (preview)

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Lol depends what industry your in. Im a one man band msp so I literally set up these catch all employee tracking systems. Most folks don't realise they exist, even fewer use the data produced by the systems. Legit 90% of the time it's just kept in case of gov audit or something going pear shaped and we need proof it wasn't us. Trust is all well and good, but trust ain't gonna pass an audit or get you out of trouble i…

> I literally set up these catch all employee tracking systems. Does that bother you at all? Not just about the employees you’re doing this to, but about being part of the system that normalises this kind of surveillance generally? Is this really the kind of world you want to live in?

Nope. Look from a private perspective and up until a few years ago even from a business perspective (i was very idealistic when i started out) I am linux/foss/privacy advocate through and through.

But in the business realm, you have no privacy whilst your at work on work devices, the company owns that data not you. Want to send a message privately about something not work related. Fine, but use your own device. Man I spent like the first decade of my working career in all forms of laboring being exposed to OH&S violations of epic proportion which were unable to be prevented or retrospectively acted upon because no data was captured that proved it happened. Think stuff like bosses bi-passing fire suppression systems that prevented machine operation on drill rigs punching holes in ground littered with methane gas pockets just in order to keep the rig running at risk of all employees running it.

I'm sick of companies getting away with abuse of customers and employees. Most of this can be prevented or at least discouraged via tech based monitoring. If you want privacy.....keep it for your private life.

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