Is this just another Chrome skin or is it actually a new browser?
It's Chromium, but more of a "rework the UI from scratch" than just a skin. I have the beta. It has some interesting ideas.
can i get an invite?
Arc Browser Company: Chrome and Safari face a new challenger
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Re: Arc Browser Company: Chrome and Safari face a new challenger
#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The majority of browsers that were commercially closed software didn’t make it Keep in mind that the last time this was tried, free/open-source alternatives were on-par if not better and the web was much less hostile. Nowadays, not only is the web teeming with hostility that can best be addressed by a browser, but the closest free/open-source solution (Firefox) is half-baked and doesn't actually solve many of these…
> The Enterprise™ spends a lot of money on (often dubious) security products > a browser with built-in security features (both against malware and other features such as DLP, blocking/filtering/monitoring without middleboxes) It'll be hard to outdo Google at security research and hardening
Vulnerabilities in the browser engine is only part of the issue. Plenty of malicious activity involves tricking the user or silently spying on them - blocking advertising/spyware/etc domains will greatly help with that.
Re: Arc Browser Company: Chrome and Safari face a new challenger
#73why are all these comments so negative? I, for one, am very excited that talented developers and designers are reimagining such a core part of everyone's daily workflow. The embedded calendar / music player (along with auto archived tabs) is very cool - not sure how well it'll work in practice, but it's clear the team has put their heart into this. And more competition for Google/Apple is always good.
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Re: Arc Browser Company: Chrome and Safari face a new challenger
#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The Enterprise™ spends a lot of money on (often dubious) security products > a browser with built-in security features (both against malware and other features such as DLP, blocking/filtering/monitoring without middleboxes) It'll be hard to outdo Google at security research and hardening
Last month Google announced 30 new security including critical vulnerabilities in chrome. They might be doing a great job at hardening, but they don’t have a great reputation.
Do you mean “30 security vulnerabilities, 1 of which was critical”? Because that seems to be the reality: https://chromereleases.googleblog.com/2022/05/stable-channel...
Re: Arc Browser Company: Chrome and Safari face a new challenger
#75>A Startup Wants to Rescue You From Browser Tab Hell
Vivaldi, Edge and Firefox already do this with vertical tabs.
Vivaldi also has the excellent tab search.
Re: Arc Browser Company: Chrome and Safari face a new challenger
#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's Chromium, but more of a "rework the UI from scratch" than just a skin. I have the beta. It has some interesting ideas.
can i get an invite?
Re: Arc Browser Company: Chrome and Safari face a new challenger
#77>A Startup Wants to Rescue You From Browser Tab Hell Vivaldi, Edge and Firefox already do this with vertical tabs. Vivaldi also has the excellent tab search.
Thank god for TreeStyleTabs, couldn't live without it (and main reason I'm not switching away from Firefox).
But it doesn't really save you from "browser tab hell", it just makes it easier to manage. If anything, I have more tabs open now, across multiple reboots just because it's so much easier to find tabs that I might as well have all of them open.
Here is how it looks right now for me: https://imgur.com/a/EHr8JEe
And that's the list scrolled all the way to the bottom. Easily three-four pages more if you scroll upwards.
Re: Arc Browser Company: Chrome and Safari face a new challenger
#78Browser tab problem is not about the web or the browser, it is about users' habits and discipline. If you suffer from this "problem" invest time in learning shortcuts for bookmark, typing to search history in the address bar, saving things in proper place for later reading and, above all, concentrate on one thing for more than 5 minutes.
This mindset/rant does not work in the real world. When a large enterprise company tried it, (Apple), they were widely mocked for blaming users for “holding it wrong”. It is not up to developers to determine how users use their tools. The best you can do is hint and nudge, but it is not your decision at the end of the day.
I don’t think it’s solvable if users don’t themselves close or group/categorize the stuff they’re opening. Any automation/heuristic is prone to not do what the user wants, because the tool can’t really judge why the user opened any given page, and thus can’t make an informed decision in how to handle it. I can think of new (mostly power-)user features to support the user in organizing opened pages, but I have a hard time imagining an I-don’t-want-to-deal-with-this user feature that would universally “just work”. (Of course, I may be wrong.)
The closest I can think of is to have sortable list views of open pages that you can sort by open date, last updated, possibly content type (e.g. has video), and/or group by site or by “opened from” (navigation history graph). Again, this is moving into power user territory.
Re: Arc Browser Company: Chrome and Safari face a new challenger
#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The majority of browsers that were commercially closed software didn’t make it Keep in mind that the last time this was tried, free/open-source alternatives were on-par if not better and the web was much less hostile. Nowadays, not only is the web teeming with hostility that can best be addressed by a browser, but the closest free/open-source solution (Firefox) is half-baked and doesn't actually solve many of these…
how is Firefox half-baked? i'm using it every day along with Safari and don't see any significant differences
+1, it’s a great piece of software.
Re: Arc Browser Company: Chrome and Safari face a new challenger
#80>A Startup Wants to Rescue You From Browser Tab Hell Vivaldi, Edge and Firefox already do this with vertical tabs. Vivaldi also has the excellent tab search.
Thank god for TreeStyleTabs, couldn't live without it (and main reason I'm not switching away from Firefox). But it doesn't really save you from "browser tab hell", it just makes it easier to manage. If anything, I have more tabs open now, across multiple reboots just because it's so much easier to find tabs that I might as well have all of them open. Here is how it looks right now for me: https://imgur.com/a/EHr8JEe…
I honestly don't know how people manage any serious web browsing without Tree Style Tabs. It's hell on Chromium-based browsers with their constantly shrinking tab width, and the workarounds aren't much better.