Algorithms could increasingly influence human culture

Post by marvin » Wed, Jun 01, 2022, 3:57 PM UTC

1270018080 wrote: post #65

marvin wrote: post #15

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Weird that there’s so much resistance to the importance of figuring out (philosophically, practically) how to align AI to human wishes. The problem is already playing out right in front of our eyes, and that’s with humans in the loop every step of the way.

Isn't AI aligned to human wishes right now? Hateful rage-baiting news took over television/radio pre-AI. I think most humans are just evil and want extremism and division. Tribalism is what makes humans human. Outsiders need to be put down. Maybe the AI is preying on our primate brains, but it's what we want.

If you dig into the philosophy a bit, you'll see that there's a distinction between "what we've historically done" or "what we end up doing with a short term, egoistical focus", and "what we wish we would have wanted", "what we would want to do if there were fewer limitations".

And to be sure, we don't understand this question well enough that it would be safe to commit humanity to our current ideas of the best solution for all eternity.

But we are certain that we wouldn't want a future AI governor of Earth to regularly and randomly pick someone to torture to death, just because that is what human drives have led to historically.

Post by familiarzombie6 » Wed, Jun 01, 2022, 4:02 PM UTC

TomSwirly wrote: post #68

familiarzombie6 wrote: post #66

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I had an AI professor that described artificial intelligence as an agent that operates independently in some environment and reasons probabilistically / mathematically to determine actions, so I made a trading bot that used some simple time series techniques to dictate decision making. She ended up telling me that it wasn't an AI because the algorithms wasn't complex enough. OK... well, then why didn't you just say a…

> I made a trading bot that used some simple time series techniques to dictate decision making They were quite right. In no sense is what you are doing AI. People have been using time series techniques to analyze and attempt to predict data since before the computer.

Alright, so when does an algorithm become AI then?

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