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Pesticide residues could negate the health benefits of fruits and vegetables

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Re: Pesticide residues could negate the health benefits of fruits and vegetables

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This is part of the reason I really want to move out of the U.S. Other countries are much more strict with what they allow in their food. I understand that I can pay more for organic produce and meat, but for a supposedly first-world country, you'd think decent produce would be a given.

Stay. Vote and help change the system.

Re: Pesticide residues could negate the health benefits of fruits and vegetables

#72
post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Roundup is an herbicide. Or did I misunderstand?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pesticide "This includes herbicide, insecticide, nematicide, molluscicide, piscicide, avicide, rodenticide, bactericide, insect repellent, animal repellent, microbicide, fungicide, and lampricide."

Thanks. I was not aware that pesticide included all of that.

Re: Pesticide residues could negate the health benefits of fruits and vegetables

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I'm no fan of communism, but one thing I think communism did better is that allotment gardens and and small cottage gardens where much more attainable under communism for poor people. So even poor people could grow their own food. I live in Ontario where the price of real estate is bonkers. If you own land, you can't even build a shed without there being a main building. And you can't build anything under 800 sqft. T…

One thing that is almost undebatable about communism is that it is NOT better for farming. Russian collectivism and the Chinese great leap forward are about the only data points needed.

The comment above me about community gardens is correct though.

Re: Pesticide residues could negate the health benefits of fruits and vegetables

#74
post #23

This is part of the reason I really want to move out of the U.S. Other countries are much more strict with what they allow in their food. I understand that I can pay more for organic produce and meat, but for a supposedly first-world country, you'd think decent produce would be a given.

I was under the impression organic farms just use organic pesticides.

Re: Pesticide residues could negate the health benefits of fruits and vegetables

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post #22
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ultrasonic washer are by far the best way to wash fruits & veges of these things, in Korea ultrasonic washer-sinks are picking up in popularity. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-JZkiGigDw&t=261s research citation https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4688301/

The trend of "we fucked up big time and need to create additional waste to take negate our fuck ups" is really worrying. Installing ultra sonic cleaners, reverse osmosis machines, AC units, &c. in every single of our houses/flats won't be sustainable

The only thing unsustainable is an indefinitely growing population, but fortunately it's projected to level off. If so it renders the arbitrary objections a moot point.

Re: Pesticide residues could negate the health benefits of fruits and vegetables

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ultrasonic washer are by far the best way to wash fruits & veges of these things, in Korea ultrasonic washer-sinks are picking up in popularity. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-JZkiGigDw&t=261s research citation https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4688301/

If that worked why would the industry not do this before they put it on the shelve?

Organic salad I can buy here (Switzerland) comes marked as pre-washed and ready to eat in many cases.

Re: Pesticide residues could negate the health benefits of fruits and vegetables

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post #23

This is part of the reason I really want to move out of the U.S. Other countries are much more strict with what they allow in their food. I understand that I can pay more for organic produce and meat, but for a supposedly first-world country, you'd think decent produce would be a given.

Stay. Vote and help change the system.

Do you have any evidence that this actually works?

The world does not look like it does.

Are you sure you're not just fooling yourself,

considering that you're still voting for people who all belong to the same social circles?

Re: Pesticide residues could negate the health benefits of fruits and vegetables

#79
post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As Sri Lanka recently found, it is difficult to feed all of your people by switching to organic. As much as I appreciate the benefits of organic and do try to buy it when reasonable, I recognize that organic farming takes more land, water, and labor to produce the same volume of food as non-organic. It works for a low volume, premium price model for some people but not for everyone. I feel like our best bet to reduce…

>As Sri Lanka recently found, it is difficult to feed all of your people by switching to organic. Oh come now. I don't really think we can use a country who had to suddenly switch from using inputs to making due without them as a good test case for organic farming. Those are absolutely less than ideal conditions. Everything I've read on organic farming and permaculture nearly always yields higher per acre output (may…

> Everything I've read on organic farming and permaculture nearly always yields higher per acre output

You'd really need to cite some sources on that

Re: Pesticide residues could negate the health benefits of fruits and vegetables

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post #22
post #2

ultrasonic washer are by far the best way to wash fruits & veges of these things, in Korea ultrasonic washer-sinks are picking up in popularity. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-JZkiGigDw&t=261s research citation https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4688301/

The trend of "we fucked up big time and need to create additional waste to take negate our fuck ups" is really worrying. Installing ultra sonic cleaners, reverse osmosis machines, AC units, &c. in every single of our houses/flats won't be sustainable

Everything is a tradeoff. It's very easy to label things as waste in isolation.

The reality is pesticides and other crop technologies substantially increase efficiency of the land we're using. This means per capita: we're using less land (more back to nature), losing less crop (less fuel/maintenance wasted), and requiring an increasingly smaller percentage of the population to tend to crops.

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