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Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by treyfitty »

aceazzameen wrote: post #11
treyfitty wrote: post #2

I suppose the only thing that makes this a better proposition is Logitechs Flow software, which allows you to use the same keyboard/mouse across multiple devices on your network, without having to manually switch. Otherwise, keychron's low-profile keyboards are a better value.

Or there's Microsoft's Mouse Without Borders, which can be used with any brand mouse/keyboard. I use it all the time. https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/mouse-...

Right, but that's only for Windows. Logitech Flow supports Mac + Windows.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by falcolas »

terramex wrote: post #28
ubertaco wrote: post #16

This looks like a non-hotswappable board with proprietary switches, and it's still tied to Logitech's wireless dongles (which are notoriously bad about both causing and being super-sensitive to 2.4Ghz-spectrum interference). I mean, I _think_ the switches are proprietary -- the page has no real information about the switches at all, which is a bit like selling a computer by showing you a picture of the case and telli…

According to Verge it uses Kailh Choc V2 Low Profile Switches: https://kono.store/products/kailh-choc-mx-switches Also Logitech's propertiary dongle is not necessary, it can use Bluetooth. https://www.theverge.com/2022/5/24/23137797/logitech-mx-mast...

They’re listing proprietary switches on the linked page: “Graphite MX Mechanical”

Perhaps they’re rebranded generics, can’t say.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by IE6 »

zweifuss wrote: post #13

What I don't like about the MX keyboards is that they don't have an IBM compatibility mode. For example, the pause key is Start+Fn+B. So the familiar break combination in Visual Studio CTRL+Pause is CTRL+Start+Fn+B. The Fn key is on the left, so it requires two-handed operation. Some key combinations can not be reached at all, not even as a macro. The macro facility (progammable key) is near useless anyway.

fwiw this has more to do with keyboard layout and pcb programming than the switches - my 'tex shinobi' board has a dedicated Pause key (and more).

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by falcolas »

diffeomorphism wrote: post #41
treyfitty wrote: post #2

I suppose the only thing that makes this a better proposition is Logitechs Flow software, which allows you to use the same keyboard/mouse across multiple devices on your network, without having to manually switch. Otherwise, keychron's low-profile keyboards are a better value.

> Logitechs Flow software How does it compare to Synergy or Mouse without borders? https://symless.com/synergy https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/garage/wall-of-fame/mouse-wi...

Personally I prefer Synergy. Paid for it a decade or more ago, and it works well.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by II2II »

bayindirh wrote: post #21
ubertaco wrote: post #16

This looks like a non-hotswappable board with proprietary switches, and it's still tied to Logitech's wireless dongles (which are notoriously bad about both causing and being super-sensitive to 2.4Ghz-spectrum interference). I mean, I _think_ the switches are proprietary -- the page has no real information about the switches at all, which is a bit like selling a computer by showing you a picture of the case and telli…

> I don't get who this product is for, other than maybe someone who has heard mechanical keyboards are cool but is daunted by doing any research into what mechanical keyboard options exist out there. Me, or anybody who needs a no-fuss, one-shot, buy-and-use-it-till-it-dies type of consumer. I don't care about changing switches. I don't care about DIY. While I'm perfectly capable, I don't want to spend time on that. I…

I cannot speak for their recent keyswitches, but I bought a Logitech mechanical keyboard a few years back and the switches started failing after a couple of years. Being able to replace keyswitches kept the thing running for a few months longer. Eventually I gave up and replaced the entire keyboard since it became clear this was a design issue rather than a manufacturer defect. Still, the ability to replace a broken keyswitch is a feature when paying anywhere from 5 to 10 times more for a keyboard.

Long story short: that mechanical keyboard was not the modern incarnation the tanks of years gone by. I am using one based upon Cherry switches at the moment. I don't have enough experience to judge the long term outcome, but my initial research suggests a similar outcome. Most of the hype around modern mechanicals seem to focus upon sound and feel (and, more justifiably, the ability to build your own), rather than quality. If that's the case, I feel that the gradual degradation of cheap keyboards is a more desirable outcome.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by falcolas »

gigaflop wrote: post #6

They don't tell you what the actual switches are on the page, but they look like Cherry's low-profile switches, which will hopefully mean that the keycaps can be customized. Taller keycaps like SA or MT3 profile might not be great with such short travel, but GMK/OEM/Cherry profile would probably be comfortable.

They do, expand the specs section and scroll down. “Graphite MX Mechanical”, whatever those are behind the brand.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by samatman »

MivLives wrote: post #57
leohonexus wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How are they on a day to day basis? I’m thinking on getting one but not sure how big of an upgrade it is from unsplit ones.

Been using one for over two years now. They're great, but I'd say go for one that isn't row staggered (the keys don't line up vertically in columns).

I'd like to add nuance to this advice.

For reasons I don't understand, ortholinear is either a Really Big Deal or it just... isn't. I'm the latter. Switching to the ErgoDox layout took some doing, it's been an iterative process of tweaking the layout, but actually typing on linear keys was a transition I barely noticed.

For different brains it's a complete showstopper and they have to learn how to type again, for many people that won't be worth it. I prefer typing on linear keyboards.

There is unfortunately little way to tell which camp you're in without trying for yourself.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by flr03 »

cosmiccatnap wrote: post #18

I'll be the one to say it. For the price point you can build a very good custom keyboard with low profile keys of your choice. This is a fact that Logitech, Corsair, and razer, hope you never bother to find out.

Most people are not interested into building keyboards.
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