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The overengineered solution to my pigeon problem

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Re: The overengineered solution to my pigeon problem

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you tried providing food? All you need is raw seeds, no salt! There are all kinds of small and big birds that visit our balcony, especially in what passes for winter these days.

Yes, I left seeds, bread and other stuff pigeons and other small birds may eat, and also provided some kind of shelter, but the only visits we have here -no matter if I provide food or not- are seagulls, which I'm not interested in.

If you’re not already, try using nutritious food formulated specifically for pigeons or doves.

Seed-heavy diets, even if formulated for pigeons, are very fatty and may not make them feel great after eating. And bread is basically junk food for birds! So if you try a more nutritious blend of food made for them specifically, they may really enjoy it and come back for more.

Plus I imagine gulls won’t bother with their tiny food.

Re: The overengineered solution to my pigeon problem

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Did something similar. My wife was upset about the flying rats defecating on her flower pots on the terrace. Those birds are stationary (generally) and slow so I managed to iterate a solution that (a) used a 3w green laser mounted on a webcam with servos and (b) later used a static laser with a mirror that was mounted on a set of servos. I used a stationary 4k webcam. I mapped the whole terrace so I didn't need to us…

That’s an awesome setup. Curious how do you triangulate using the video from a camera.

That was done on the cheap; there is a finite number of spots the pidgeons used to occupy. Pigeons also have a relatively fixed height when stationary. The camera was in a fixed position. I mapped the area the camera was observing manually: railing, base of the terrace, etc. I was contemplating using two cameras but the cheap setup worked nearly flawlessly when it comes to triangulation.

Re: The overengineered solution to my pigeon problem

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Did something similar. My wife was upset about the flying rats defecating on her flower pots on the terrace. Those birds are stationary (generally) and slow so I managed to iterate a solution that (a) used a 3w green laser mounted on a webcam with servos and (b) later used a static laser with a mirror that was mounted on a set of servos. I used a stationary 4k webcam. I mapped the whole terrace so I didn't need to us…

That’s an awesome setup. Curious how do you triangulate using the video from a camera.

If you aren't moving your position and you have a topographic map of your territory, and you have a line-of-sight weapon that doesn't need wind or range adjustments... then you don't really need to know where your target is in 3 coordinates, you only need 2.

I would expect that ambient lighting changes are harder to compensate for when selecting targets.

It is, however, terribly irresponsible to do this, since temporary reflectors like water puddles or a misplaced water glass can be inadvertently weaponized.

For small areas, an overhead water sprinkler would be much, much safer and not need aiming at all.

Re: The overengineered solution to my pigeon problem

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I hope that at least one person pauses to consider the pigeons' close relation to us on the family tree of life, the fact that they have feelings and personalities and can experience joy and pain.

That doesn't mean humans can't hate them for shitting everywhere, however. These solutions discussed here aren't fatal or invasive. The birds don't die and they're free to leave.

Re: The overengineered solution to my pigeon problem

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I've been daydreaming about something like this for my squirrel problem. The damn things nearly leave me without nectarines unless I install a cumbersome, unsightly net over the tree.

I can't currently link to it but this reminded me of that Mark Rober series of videos about squirrels.
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