I don't think I've seen a YouTube ad in years. uBlock Origin plus SponsorBlock make for a much better watching experience.
Dark pattern: how YouTube makes sure you don’t always “skip ad”
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Re: Dark pattern: how YouTube makes sure you don’t always “skip ad”
#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
And I'll leave this here: https://sponsor.ajay.app/ This also skips the sponsored parts of the actual videos ("this video is sponsored by skillshadow raid vpn,...")
I wonder if you could build an AI using this datasource to automatically detect sponsored segments. 3.8 million segment submissions is probably enough data.
It's been tried: https://github.com/andrewzlee/NeuralBlock
Re: Dark pattern: how YouTube makes sure you don’t always “skip ad”
#73People complain a lot about Youtube ads and how awful they are but as a thought experiment I once tried to imagine the amount of storage and bandwidth Youtube must need everyday to operate. So after some basic research it looks like they need to add almost 1 petabytes of storage and I couldn't find much info on the bandwidth and servers it uses. As much as I don't like Google for their shady business practices, I cou…
I’m not seeing the connection you’re making between the admitted marvel of engineering at scale and ads.
Well wouldn't it be just recouping cost to run engineering infrastructure and hence ads.
Re: Dark pattern: how YouTube makes sure you don’t always “skip ad”
#74People complain a lot about Youtube ads and how awful they are but as a thought experiment I once tried to imagine the amount of storage and bandwidth Youtube must need everyday to operate. So after some basic research it looks like they need to add almost 1 petabytes of storage and I couldn't find much info on the bandwidth and servers it uses. As much as I don't like Google for their shady business practices, I cou…
google and YouTube generate insane profits. they could show fewer ads and it would not impair the functionality of YouTube
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#75YouTube, like TV and any other technology infested with adds seems to me completely unusable as it is, I don't understand how people are so patient and keep using it.
I use uBlock Origin, SponsorBlock and Watch On Odysee extensions to improve it.
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#76When I found out my kids spend more time on YouTube than any other video platform I paid for YouTube Premium. They're a little older now and are shifting back to other platforms but I don't think we'll cancel our subscription anytime soon given how many complaints I see about their ad delivery.
I used to pay for the Youtube Premium as well, because the app is literally unusable on an Apple TV and iOS devices without it, the ads are just too much. Unfortunately, the premium subscription does not work for the in video ads and promotions (shills) which seems to be everywhere now, so I cancelled my subscription, as I can not get the ad-free experience anymore, dropped the idea of using Youtube on devices where…
How does ublock solve the promotions you describe?
Re: Dark pattern: how YouTube makes sure you don’t always “skip ad”
#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
I used to pay for the Youtube Premium as well, because the app is literally unusable on an Apple TV and iOS devices without it, the ads are just too much. Unfortunately, the premium subscription does not work for the in video ads and promotions (shills) which seems to be everywhere now, so I cancelled my subscription, as I can not get the ad-free experience anymore, dropped the idea of using Youtube on devices where…
Does Ublock also block the in-content ads?
It doesn’t. The point is the in content/in video ads severely decrease value I see in youtube premium.
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#78The ads are genuinely one of my most frustrating experiences when using the Chromecast with Google TV. And seeing this kind of pattern makes it more likely that I’ll never sign up for premium YouTube (whatever it is called) and just use YouTube less. Also, I swear they do this - If you click on the try YouTube premium for 14 days, once the 14 days end you are bombarded with extra ads. And ads that are usually not ski…
FYI, several alternative youtube frontend apps are available for "Chromecast with Google TV" (which is just an Android TV device), for instance the opensource Newpipe. (Though this is piracy, and you shouldn't do piracy, because piracy hurts Google and content creators - who will gladly take donations -)
That is not piracy.
Re: Dark pattern: how YouTube makes sure you don’t always “skip ad”
#79Recently, I've been with people who unlike me don't have youtube premium and I loathe the ads. I'm so happy I pay for premium so I don't have to experience this. I want to say "subscription is the right answer" but it clearly isn't enough for some people (netflix).
The main reason I don't want to pay is it cannot remove the ads the content creators put in themselves. I could see paying if it was a totally clean experience but to pay and get rid of part/half of the ads I would see does not seem worth it to me.
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On the topic: Same goes for me, "ad-free" YT is not really ad-free, only a little less "infested".
Re: Dark pattern: how YouTube makes sure you don’t always “skip ad”
#80People complain a lot about Youtube ads and how awful they are but as a thought experiment I once tried to imagine the amount of storage and bandwidth Youtube must need everyday to operate. So after some basic research it looks like they need to add almost 1 petabytes of storage and I couldn't find much info on the bandwidth and servers it uses. As much as I don't like Google for their shady business practices, I cou…
I’m not seeing the connection you’re making between the admitted marvel of engineering at scale and ads.
There is no free lunch I think is his point. Also, I think youtube allows you to pay to have an ad free experience