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Teen mental health is plummeting and social media is a major contributing cause [pdf]

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Our descendants will look back on us allowing children access to unadulterated social media the way we look back on smoking.

Strongly disagree, when has society ever decided less access to information is ideal? Our descendants will create better platforms that can allow users to better filter for their emotional needs and they'll likely have better tools to understand their own emotions.

It does give you more access to information but also allows young impressionable brains to be influenced in a negative way by misguided "influencers".

The distribution channel isn't the main issue, it is that the role of a parent is more complicated than it ever was and parents are not keeping up.

In the past you had to ensure that your kid doesn't pick up negative influences from the kids around them. Today you need to be more proactive in ensuring that they don't pick up negative influences from the multitudes of misguided people unrestricted by geography who's half-formed views are propagated as long as they are interesting and make people feel good about themselves in the short term.

Re: Teen mental health is plummeting and social media is a major contributing cause [pdf]

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My entirely anecdotal impression as a high school teacher is that media (in general, often but not always “social” media) is doing an exceptional job of sucking up teenagers’ every waking moment that is not actively demanded to be focused on something else. It’s pleasure without joy. Ennui without boredom. Their social skills (and social interest) appear markedly reduced even compared to even five years ago. So many…

They probably can't articulate a positive vision because humanity is fucked. That's not social media, that's a fact.

Re: Teen mental health is plummeting and social media is a major contributing cause [pdf]

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I am wondering how much this effect vary by family culture. Are Asians kids less impacted because parent intervenes? Just guessing.

There is a chart in the link that shows the problem is equal no matter your ancestry or cultural background.

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Personally I think it looks like going back to when your online and offline identities were totally separate. Inhabiting the internet under your real name is living in two different worlds with two different rulesets and pretending the same identity is well-suited to both. 100% of your online identity was under your control in my day. You were exactly who you chose to be. Not anymore. Now if you're ugly, fat, gay, a…

Are there any studies showing using 4chan, tumblr, or reddit has better mental health outcomes than non-anonymous social networks? I'm skeptical from my own experience.

I grew up on 4chan, it’s nice to be a total flaming fuckface every now and then. Even on this website I throwaway accounts after a while.

Anonymity is an escape from the drudgery of this pseudo “real life” created by social media. You associate your real anything and you will pay the price.

Whether it be a photo or video, saying something that someone somewhere might find offensive—you end with all hurt and pain with nothing to gain.

Re: Teen mental health is plummeting and social media is a major contributing cause [pdf]

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My theory is that he is affected by America’s racial reckoning, and is blaming social media for it. So he has come up with these convoluted explanations to justify his insecurities.

Racial reckoning? Sounds ominous.

Not ominous, in mid 2020 the whole of America realized the country wasn’t treating millions of its citizens fairly and started adopting policies to improve equity and diversity, and that upset Professor Haidt. Here he was among the protestors when a school district tried to enroll more minority students in a program.

https://nypost.com/2018/12/04/angry-parents-lash-out-at-doe-...

Re: Teen mental health is plummeting and social media is a major contributing cause [pdf]

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My friend kids were doing sports and dancing at very serious level. Before pandemic, then lockdown started and they were forced to stop. Now they do not want to invest time in something like that again!

It is easy to blaim "social media", but it is adults who create this toxic culture. Kids need stability and current "doom" culture does not help.

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Is it social media? Or is it also the knowledge that they effectively have no future. Rent is going up and mortgage rates are going up faster. A shrinking portion of young adults can now afford housing. The economy is becoming so disfunctional there's almost no reason to bother participating. When children end up in that position their family will turn on them and they have nothing materially or socially.

> Is it social media? They do cite a number of randomized controlled trials that show it's social media: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1w-HOfseF2wF9YIpXwUUtP65-... > Or is it also the knowledge that they effectively have no future. Rent is going up and mortgage rates are going up faster. A shrinking portion of young adults can now afford housing. The economy is becoming so disfunctional there's almost no reason…

Sure. We'll fix it tomorrow. In the meantime, let's keep doing what we're doing until someone fixes it for us. Later.

Re: Teen mental health is plummeting and social media is a major contributing cause [pdf]

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This topic is something that's been generating a lot of hot takes recently. Personally I think the way to solve it is teaching people to be more mindful of their own emotions. e.g. if seeing someone's artificial presentation of their life on social media makes someone feel bad, they should be aware of the causal link. The upcoming generation should know how to regulate their own social media diet. There's so much nas…

It would be very difficult to teach a teenager to be mindful of their own emotions to the degree necessary that social media would have no effect on them upon exposure. Teenagers brains aren’t fully developed yet and cannot think critically, have limited empathy, and do not yet have solid senses of self.

Re: Teen mental health is plummeting and social media is a major contributing cause [pdf]

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Is it social media? Or is it also the knowledge that they effectively have no future. Rent is going up and mortgage rates are going up faster. A shrinking portion of young adults can now afford housing. The economy is becoming so disfunctional there's almost no reason to bother participating. When children end up in that position their family will turn on them and they have nothing materially or socially.

> Rent is going up and mortgage rates are going up faster. A shrinking portion of young adults can now afford housing. The economy is becoming so disfunctional there's almost no reason to bother participating. When children end up in that position their family will turn on them and they have nothing materially or socially. This sounds exactly like you are reading too much social media.

It sounds exactly like being informed. My rent has been raised 15% twice in the last 6 months.
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