Wharton MBA has this Team-based Discussion (TBD) as a part of their application process. From what I hear, it is to weed out Asshole type of personality. In regard to how effective the method is, I'm not 100% convinced.
IBM's Asshole Test
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#72https://web.archive.org/web/20220504204525/https://johnpubli...
Pity my blog died so quickly! Can anyone recommend a more robust host? Ideally one with low set up effort.
You can host a static site out of an S3 bucket.
https://docs.aws.amazon.com/AmazonS3/latest/userguide/Websit...
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#73How about the inverse, though? I'd love to identify which management teams set unrealistic deadlines to play mind games.
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#74This sounds so weird, people without any expertise in human psychology are in-charge of a behavior detection exercise. The worst part, those who got in were the new experts in 6-months.
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#75Enjoyed the story but I am dreading "the group test" becoming the new why-are-manhole-covers-round cargo cult nonsense :-)
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#76This sounds so weird, people without any expertise in human psychology are in-charge of a behavior detection exercise. The worst part, those who got in were the new experts in 6-months.
Take this with a pinch of salt, but I read an anecdote on Reddit a long time ago about a corporation in New York (I think it was a bank) where an executive was looking for a new VP/Director/something. He found a potential candidate and invited him to a one-on-one lunch. When the candidate placed his order, the executive discreetly told the waiter to bring the wrong order for the candidate. The point was to see how th…
I mean, if I were in that situation, I'd probably accept it just because the accuracy of my order doesn't really matter compared to the meeting as long as it's edible, it doesn't really say anything about my decision making when it does matter.
It's knowing P(A|B) and trying to obtain a P(A|C) where B and C are mostly disjoint, making the info not too useful.
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#77If only companies had this test for all levels, including middle and upper management, given the larger impact a lead/manager has across the org.
I suspect the requirement for assholery is different for each role though?
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#78"i suggest we have everyone read their own packet, then slide it to the person to the left. Then we can discuss everything once we circle around"
That takes exactly the same amount of time as everyone reading out their packet, which the story says didn't scale to the time allowed.
Reading silently is faster than reading out, and also easier and less error-prone than listening.
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#79When I interviewed at Google in 2006, one of the interviewers asked me to write code for solving a particular problem. I replied along the lines of "ok I need to think about this, it's not obvious how to solve it" and started thinking. Time ticked away. Five minutes. Ten minutes. Fifteen minutes. The interviewer started reminding me that he needed me to write some code and if there wasn't anything for him to copy dow…
The two aren't mutually exclusive, you could've easily started out with salary + stock options that would've put you in a better position to start a side gig. Then you might actually be driving a lambo now too ;)
By '06 Google was already public so you weren't going to make life changing, never work again in your life money from stock awards/options. At best you'd be sitting on a decent nest egg that maybe bought you some property or better investments if you were smart (and a $250k supercar is not a smart investment).
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#80When I interviewed at Google in 2006, one of the interviewers asked me to write code for solving a particular problem. I replied along the lines of "ok I need to think about this, it's not obvious how to solve it" and started thinking. Time ticked away. Five minutes. Ten minutes. Fifteen minutes. The interviewer started reminding me that he needed me to write some code and if there wasn't anything for him to copy dow…
> Why interviewers were all transcribing the whiteboard rather than taking photos I have no clue. It makes it easier to reason about the code. It's the difference between typing out the answer from Stack Overflow, v.s. copy pasting it. At least for me, writing the code down at the speed the candidate does triggers the error checking part of my brain.
It's just because the interviewing tool you have to put your notes into at Google takes text and not pictures :-). The hiring committee will actually look at this, and this is a different person from the interviewer.