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Re: Tailscale raises $100M

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I know it was supposed to be a funny throwaway line, but I am irked by the "with $100 million you could interrupt the Super Bowl for 7 full minutes." That's not how sports advertising runs works. You are bidding on a limited amount of space determined by the game. I think there is also a non-linear cost.

Of course the NFL would never allow a 7 minute commercial break, although I do believe that the cost is linear. A 60 second commercial's cost is simply 2x 30 second commercials. There's no reason to do anything differently, since in the end it doesn't matter if that 60 seconds are filled by one or two commercials (aside from making the ad sales team's job slightly easier by having one less spot to fill).

I think there are reasons why cost would be nonlinear. First, there's simply demand. The people who want to do 60s clearly have a reason that 30s won't work, so they may be willing to pay more (certainly they won't pay less). It's a different segmented market. There is a reason companies with lots of commercials tend to also be official sponsors of the Super Bowl. Second, practically it costs more. Ads are reshuffled around in real-time and the number of times you can be sure you can broadcast a 60 second spot are less than you being able to broadcast a 30 second spot, since the action may resume at an indeterminate time. Third, the Super Bowl specifically sells itself on the quality of the ads. It could do long term damage to the Super Bowl of the ads one year were just one company and not the funny celebrity heavy spots people expect.

Re: Tailscale raises $100M

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed, 1Password is practically a utility at this point, as far as I'm concerned. I really like the direction they're heading and they're solving some pretty tricky problems without compromising on security, predominantly in the enterprise domain. The experience is the same regardless of whether you're an enterprise user or a personal or family user. It's polished enough that my grandma can use it.

> I really like the direction [1Password] is heading I thought customers were complainingly loudly against their new direction of making 1Password an Electron app. Is that not the case? Note: I'm not a 1Password customer.

I heard some people complaining a bit for a moment when they made the transition, but that happens anytime anyone changes anything and doubly so when that change is Electron. But that faded quickly.

Re: Tailscale raises $100M

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We love Tailscale. Everyone employee has it, and we use it to provide access to dev, staging, and prod environments as well. Fun little thing we did with it: nobody can access the prod network without requesting access via a Slack bot (powered by https://indent.com/ ). So somebody requests access, another authorized person approves it, and the Tailscale ACLs are updated for X minutes and then reset. Access to secure…

That's gonna be exciting next time Slack is down.

I'd assume they have a fallback option to provide access.

Re: Tailscale raises $100M

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Am I the only one that has an issue with a VPN that I can't self host? Presumably if Tailscale get's PWN'd or subpoenaed then your network is breached no?

Tailscale's data plane is [1] mostly p2p except for some cases where it doesn't work and it goes through an encrypted relay. So your data does not run through Tailscale servers.

There is an oss [2]coordination server that does let you totally self-host.

[1] https://tailscale.com/blog/how-nat-traversal-works/

[2] https://github.com/juanfont/headscale

Re: Tailscale raises $100M

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Fixing the internet" == you can comunicate with computers that want to comunicate with you, and not with others.

"Fixing the internet" == you can communicate with computers that you want to communicate with, and not with others.

"Fixing the internet" == computers that mutually consent to communicating with each other are able to communicate with each other

Re: Tailscale raises $100M

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not their "mission" but it is their system. If you have a static IP address where "...the address migrated around the world with you..." how do you think that will work for people that _NEED_ anonymity? Will they be left out of this new internet?

Tailscale is for accessing your own devices, it's not a general purpose VPN service. Anonymity is not a factor.

The title of the article from Tailscale is "...to fix the Internet"... if it was "only" about "your own devices" then you are assuming they are thinking small.

Re: Tailscale raises $100M

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For anyone else who wonders wtf tailscale is: > Tailscale is a VPN service that makes the devices and applications you own accessible anywhere in the world, securely and effortlessly. It enables encrypted point-to-point connections using the open source WireGuard protocol, which means only devices on your private network can communicate with each other. It seems to take care of key distribution, nat-traversal, authen…

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