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Khan Academy launches Khan World School online high school

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Re: Khan Academy launches Khan World School online high school

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Post by magpi3 »

azinman2 wrote: post #11
vincentmarle wrote: post #2

The concept of an online high school may sound terrible, but sooner or later it’s bound to happen: quality education will keep consolidating until there’s one super school left. Outlier is doing the same thing but on the college level: why deal with a mediocre local math teacher if you can get taught by the best?

Because there’s more to high school than just classes. It’s important to learn how to deal with people as well. A purely virtual high school experience sounds extremely lonely and thin for the soul.

I hear this argument a lot, but lets's ask the question: are high schools the best way to learn to "deal with people?" How much trauma have high schools inspired and can we do better now that we have other options?

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Post by Marcan »

abrax3141 wrote: post #69

The Kahn Academy is boring online trash dressed up with famous media hype, and this sounds like more of the same. They seem to have anti-learned the lesson from the year* of pandemic online school: So, that was terrible, let’s do more if it and make it sound like a 6 hour straight zoom meeting isn’t everyone’s worst nightmare.

Why would you say that? Can you elaborate? As far as I'm concerned, it is a great free online resource which makes learning accessible to everyone. Sal Khan is also an excellent teacher.

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Post by agent008t »

Kosirich wrote: post #21

In my mind a "better high school of tomorrow" would be the one that utilizes the best available classes and material available online in a physical class room environment, except for classes that are unique to the national curriculum. So a school would have people employed in some new role of mentor/teacher with whom you take the classes online with help and guidance. What would be the stoppers from implementation of…

I think a competitive, decentralized system is the way to go.

Basically, you would have independently set and assessed requirements. In the case of universities, it would be admission requirements, that the universities set and independently assess. Students, that want to get to these universities, then use any resource available to them to learn to those requirements. This could be through a mix of online and offline classes, remote learning, evening classes, day school, textbooks, tutors etc. "Official" high school is de-emphasized in this scheme, as there is no way it can provide the right thing for everyone. Nobody should be punished for school absences for pursuing their (academic) interests.

Schools should also do all they can to emphasize academics and de-emphasize sports, to counter-balance the natural tendencies of teenagers.

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Post by abrax3141 »

Marcan wrote: post #72
abrax3141 wrote: post #69

The Kahn Academy is boring online trash dressed up with famous media hype, and this sounds like more of the same. They seem to have anti-learned the lesson from the year* of pandemic online school: So, that was terrible, let’s do more if it and make it sound like a 6 hour straight zoom meeting isn’t everyone’s worst nightmare.

Why would you say that? Can you elaborate? As far as I'm concerned, it is a great free online resource which makes learning accessible to everyone. Sal Khan is also an excellent teacher.

There’s like 500 way better online resources for any given KA topic. Take any KA video and compare it with the same topic from Numberphile, VSauce, or even just a random person who knows how to teach.

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Post by gsatic »

dalbasal wrote: post #39

Online learning resources are amazing. Compared to pre-internet, the depth, quality and accessibility is amazing. It really does open an opportunity route for a lot of people. However... Institutional learning, whether it's K-12, colleges, techs or whatnot have barely changed. The same fundamental dynamics exist, whether it's tertiary sorting and prestige or primary teaching methods. Education still serves and fails…

Online resources are not very different than having access to good libraries.

Great libraries have existed for thousands of years but you won't find examples, anywhere in the world, where kids are just left at the library to learn.

One of the fundamental aspects of learning is practice. Teachers/coaches/guides and mentors play a big role in keeping kids on track. It's not just about the best quality content. Or getting them interested. It's about keeping ppl on track when the repetition and practice gets boring. This is easy to do with small groups.

But very hard as group size increases which is why I don't have too much faith in the online model.

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Post by frankfrankfrank »

I realize this community is extremely biased as it relates to this announcement, however, this looks like yet another unnecessary funneling and pipeline to force everyone into the exorbitant and group-think conditioning college system.

If they want to have an impact, focus on education for vocational and blue collar employment; from agricultural workers to general laborers and small business owners. Americas needs more people who can actually accomplish things, not spilled university students that are profit centers for universities that take all the profit and ensnare dim witted children into debt slavery at the public’s expense.

And seriously, ASU? Not LSU or FSU while they’re at it? Just alone the choice of university says something about the orientation, focus, and purpose of this effort.

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Post by hhmc »

abrax3141 wrote: post #74
Marcan wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would you say that? Can you elaborate? As far as I'm concerned, it is a great free online resource which makes learning accessible to everyone. Sal Khan is also an excellent teacher.

There’s like 500 way better online resources for any given KA topic. Take any KA video and compare it with the same topic from Numberphile, VSauce, or even just a random person who knows how to teach.

> Numberphile, VSauce

I just looked at the video listing for these creators and there's nothing but pop-science.

I don't understand how it's at all comperable to KA?

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Post by unixhero »

dalbasal wrote: post #60
vosper wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I really hope to see online resources develop in such a way that schools can be built around them. You might be interested to know that Salman Khan has built a physical school https://www.khanlabschool.org/about/about-kls

This is interesting, but I was somewhat disappointed by the website. They call it a "lab school." I was hoping that meant developing a model which other schools can follow. No shade to Sal, obviously. He does plenty, and does it well.

Better than no website!

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Post by maaanu »

frontman1988 wrote: post #24
vincentmarle wrote: post #2

The concept of an online high school may sound terrible, but sooner or later it’s bound to happen: quality education will keep consolidating until there’s one super school left. Outlier is doing the same thing but on the college level: why deal with a mediocre local math teacher if you can get taught by the best?

This is indeed the future of education. It is something the governments should do now in countries with substandard educators. A few superstar rockstar teachers can replace millions of average teachers. The offline physical teacher will be there to merely solve doubts(and ensure kids are actually watching stuff) while the online teacher streams live to millions of students. The biggest challenge will be to make the e…

If you think that your description is teaching, you never had a teacher or only very lousy ones.
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