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Twitter Locks Down Product Changes After Agreeing to Musk Bid - https://finance.yahoo.com/news/twitter-locks-down-product-ch...

> Twitter imposed the temporary ban to keep employees who may be miffed about the deal from “going rogue,” according to one of the people. What could a rogue employee do?

Create a repo for sharing the algorithm!

Re: twitter/the-algorithm

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Many people have commented that it is empty. However what they do not realize is that there has never actually been an algorithm and that is why it is empty.

Twitter is mostly an infrastructure operation imho, someone school me. It’s a scale-based problem space, how do you get all these tweets out in real time at minimum, and at best, how do you do some level of topic bucketing on top of it.

Re: twitter/the-algorithm

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Many people have commented that it is empty. However what they do not realize is that there has never actually been an algorithm and that is why it is empty.

Yes there is an algorithm. It may not be concise, it may not be found in one place, and nobody alive may be able to explain it to you, but the existence of timelines that are ordered certainly implies the existence of 'the algorithm' that is used to order timelines.

I mean even if timelines were totally random, or based on some external facts, there is an algorithm that is being used to order them.

This isn't just an academic distinction. Claiming 'there is no algorithm' because the algorithm is intentionally or unintentionally obfuscated or complicated has implications if that claim of 'no algorithm' is accepted. If my algorithm for approving mortgage applications is explicitly racist, I can just spread it's functionality across myriad services owned by lots of teams, make it almost impossible to figure out how it works, and then avoid any responsibility by saying 'there is no algorithm to decide loan approvals'? That would be bullshit!

Re: twitter/the-algorithm

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Anyone who actually uses Twitter already knows the algorithm: * Chronological - reverse sort by date * Home - for all of the followed topics, recommended topics, retweets and tweets in the past day determine the estimated level of engagement, include the highest and reverse sort by date. This is likely to be a fairly basic ML model. It will be uncontroversial, technically unsophisticated and of no practical use to an…

You forgot the gigantic amount of human intervention required to unperson people who tweet against Twitter‘s political interests

Re: twitter/the-algorithm

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Anyone who actually uses Twitter already knows the algorithm: * Chronological - reverse sort by date * Home - for all of the followed topics, recommended topics, retweets and tweets in the past day determine the estimated level of engagement, include the highest and reverse sort by date. This is likely to be a fairly basic ML model. It will be uncontroversial, technically unsophisticated and of no practical use to an…

What are you basing this on? I wouldn't assume response prediction is using a "fairly basic ML model," it can be a lot more than that.

Re: twitter/the-algorithm

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Seems weird to start as a non-private repo until there's some content. Also bit of an unusual name. Can't tell if this is internal trolling or the future

The Twitter board has unanimously approved Musk's purchase, pending approval by stockholders, and Musk has stated that once he owns the company they will open source the "algorithms" for transparency.

So not a troll, but yes it is odd to put up an empty repo, and announce the repo before there is anything in it.

Re: twitter/the-algorithm

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whatever will show up in this repo, I hope people realize that depending on what data you put into some algorithm you can get whatever output you want, and twitter is never going to (and neither can or should they) publish everyone's personal information and interaction on the site.

So I'm not sure what the ultimate point of this exercise is other than producing faux-transparency.

Re: twitter/the-algorithm

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I tried to make a pull request already, haha. error forking repo: HTTP 403: The repository exists, but it contains no Git content. Empty repositories cannot be forked. ( https://api.github.com/repos/twitter/the-algorithm/forks ) My thoughts: - Explicit rules for temporary and permanent bans - Edit button - More fun and thoughtful conversations like HN - Less thought bubble Brooklyn based reporters, less VC and side g…

Care to explain "thought bubble Brooklyn based reporters"? Did you choose Brooklyn for the alliteration? Or is there something about my home I should know about?
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