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The Psychedelic Experience: A new concept in psychotherapy (1962) [pdf]

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“Psychedelics are to the study of the mind, what the microscope is to biology and the telescope is to astronomy” –Stanislas Grof. While it feels like an artifact from the future, Berkeley CSP is now formally certifying "facilitators". And its important to note, because the cure is the experience. Not the actual biochemistry. We know a lot about the botany and chemistry of these compounds. And we can actually map phen…

Meditation and mystical experiences can be pursued without any substance use at all. Psychedelics are merely a crutch, and one that ultimately limits our understanding and insight about these experiences.

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This is an incredible article. So beautifully and sensitively written. It is wonderful to know that the methods described here are just now becoming possible to enact legally. But damn. Here’s the rough schedule: 200 mcg LSD at 9am followed up an hour later by a full dose of mescaline and then 5 hours later a dose of amphetamine. At 5:30p they are sent home with a friend and given a sleeping pill. I’ve tried a lot, b…

What sleeping pill can knock you out after that day? LSD makes you WIRED for hours and hours. Same with amphetamine, but to a much lesser degree.

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> disclaimer: ymmv, please get a sitter, if not, do it outside (best to do it on the grass) where you are safe, comfortable, and calm. I just want to echo how important this disclaimer is. There's no free lunch, and psilocybin can be incredibly challenging. For some people it is massively helpful for depression, but this is not a guarantee. Do your research and have a guide (if at all possible).

Something else that's critically important is to make sure you know what you're getting is actually psilocybin and not something else, and that the dosage actually is what you expect. If you're part of a research study at a respected institution, that's easy. Not so easy if you're getting it on the black/gray market or picking mushrooms yourself. So if you have to get it from the black/gray market, educate yourself t…

As a general PSA: If you’re using any drugs it’s important to test with a reagent to make sure it’s what you expect. You can by kits with excellent instructions from DanceSafe.

https://dancesafe.org/

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i say it again and again whenever i see these threads: psilocybin mushroom kicks down depression so hard it can't get up and bother you again. no SSRIs, no marijuana after taking it. anxiety and ptsd are still there tho so i think that requires something else. also something about THC that seems to reverse the benefits I got from psilocybin. cessation of THC seems to put me "back" on track if that makes sense. discla…

For PTSD i recommend taking a look at stellate gangelion block https://youtu.be/nC2fBe6U7lg

There is no conclusive evidence of long-term benefits and SGB is not currently an established treatment.

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“Psychedelics are to the study of the mind, what the microscope is to biology and the telescope is to astronomy” –Stanislas Grof. While it feels like an artifact from the future, Berkeley CSP is now formally certifying "facilitators". And its important to note, because the cure is the experience. Not the actual biochemistry. We know a lot about the botany and chemistry of these compounds. And we can actually map phen…

Meditation and mystical experiences can be pursued without any substance use at all. Psychedelics are merely a crutch, and one that ultimately limits our understanding and insight about these experiences.

For those of us who don't subscribe to anything “mystical” as in magic, lots of us can see the value in realizing that we don't know everything about the biochemistry of the brain and that psychedelics (and a lesser extent meditation) are potentially very powerful tools into mapping out brain functions and features.

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What assurance do I have that some rando at a festival who claims to have "magic mushrooms" is actually selling psylocybin mushrooms? None. They might have picked some "little brown mushrooms" in a field somewhere thinking they were psylocybin mushrooms but not gone to the effort to identify them properly, or just not known how to do it, or made a mistake. Or maybe they got it from someone who told them that's what t…

Why would someone waste their time foraging for psylocibin mushrooms to sell? They can be grown for basically free and in much larger quantities. Dried psylocibin mushrooms are still easily identifiable. If a rando drug dealer was claiming to have psylocibin capsules, for instance, sure, that would give me pause. But again - have you EVER heard of this happening? I've not. You're talking nonsense.

You seriously haven't heard of a single case where a fake or harmful substance was ingested as if it was a drug?

I heard more than one story, e.g. giving unsuspecting newbies tea under guise of weed. And that didn't even involve money, imagine how much you could earn by optimizing for finding shroom-curious laypeople. (If this is nothing to you, perhaps you are not poor.)

I'm not OP but I wouldn't want to take a gamble buying illicit substance from someone I don't know and can't vouch for.

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> disclaimer: ymmv, please get a sitter, if not, do it outside (best to do it on the grass) where you are safe, comfortable, and calm. I just want to echo how important this disclaimer is. There's no free lunch, and psilocybin can be incredibly challenging. For some people it is massively helpful for depression, but this is not a guarantee. Do your research and have a guide (if at all possible).

Be deliberate and have fun. And always know that you will sober up. you are on drugs — you aren’t crazy — you will be fine — you didn’t break your brain.

Yeah sadly not always true. Some people go get lasting problems from certain drugs. They can provoke psychiatric deteriorations. Examples: potent cannabinoids, amphetamines, high dose psychedelics. Lots to be said about set, setting and underlying vulnerabilities.

Still probably a healthy mantra to recite to anyone in the midst of overwhelm as most people a fine, and its a caring act.

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Meditation and mystical experiences can be pursued without any substance use at all. Psychedelics are merely a crutch, and one that ultimately limits our understanding and insight about these experiences.

For those of us who don't subscribe to anything “mystical” as in magic, lots of us can see the value in realizing that we don't know everything about the biochemistry of the brain and that psychedelics (and a lesser extent meditation) are potentially very powerful tools into mapping out brain functions and features.

There's nothing magical whatsoever about mystical experience, other than the trivial fact that anything that goes on in the universe might be described as some kind of natural "magic".

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what is 'dry fruit' in this context?

Sorry. Dried Shrooms themselves, I.e. not a psilocybin dose. Of course I goofed the units, confusing you. Grams not milli grams.

thank you
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