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Samsung Electronics cultural issues causing disasters in foundry, LSI, DRAM

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Re: Samsung Electronics cultural issues causing disasters in foundry, LSI, DRAM

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Post by kortilla »

krisoft wrote: post #52
jason-phillips wrote: post #13

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> It has been clear to us for years that Samsung has baaad internal communication issues... It's clear that Samsung culture prevents people from admitting mistakes... Jesus H. Christ on a fucking hockey stick. I doubt I've ever read such a breathless hit piece with so many unsupported assertions summarily presented as fact. I worked for Samsung Semiconductor for ten years and left as a software engineering manager. N…

> Communication issues? Not admitting mistakes? Please... enlighten me. Tell me how we worked. I’m not sure if this is supposed to be a satire or not. The forcefull and quite frankly agressive way you denied ever having a problem with admiting mistakes makes me think that there might be something to this allegiation. Every company I ever worked with had occasional issues with communication, and even rarer issues with…

Responding with swearing to unsubstantiated allegations about people you’ve worked with for decades is fine. It’s not even worthy of any response in my opinion and it’s a little sad that the armchair analysis has received so many upvotes.

Re: Samsung Electronics cultural issues causing disasters in foundry, LSI, DRAM

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Post by rootusrootus »

mwint wrote: post #39
rootusrootus wrote: post #36

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I have a Samsung fridge. It singlehandedly convinced me never to buy another Samsung appliance. The reputation is legit.

What kind of issues are you seeing? Naively, a fridge seems like such a simple device that I'm curious how they screwed it up so badly that it's developed an anti-following.

The biggest consistent problem mine has is the display panel burns out LEDs in a matter of weeks. Yes, burning out LEDs. If I put in a new panel (which thankfully is fairly easy, just a ribbon cable and a couple screws) it works for a few weeks, then the LEDs start to burn out again. So it becomes a guessing game of whether you're going to get water, crushed ice, or cubed ice.

There is basically no warranty on replacement parts. We stopped replacing that panel, and now we just play the guessing game. Fortunately the fridge does remain functional as a cold box, at least. There are a few other problems, like accumulating ice in the tray at the bottom, but this is not really a Samsung-specific problem, lots of fridges develop this issue.

Re: Samsung Electronics cultural issues causing disasters in foundry, LSI, DRAM

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Post by kortilla »

jeffbee wrote: post #66
userbinator wrote: post #56

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but that doesn't directly reflect on 5000 years of western culture. There hasn't even been 5000 years of western culture...

Some would say there haven't been any.

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Re: Samsung Electronics cultural issues causing disasters in foundry, LSI, DRAM

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Post by hedora »

is_true wrote: post #67
mwint wrote: post #39

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What kind of issues are you seeing? Naively, a fridge seems like such a simple device that I'm curious how they screwed it up so badly that it's developed an anti-following.

I have a samsung fridge and it makes loud cracking noises, sometimes it even wakes me up at night. They told me the noises were normal, funny thing that fridge is advertised as being really quiet

Oh yeah, I forgot. At least half the Dacor warranty document is an explanation that they will charge you money and refuse to fix the problem if you file a warranty claim because the fridge is being unreasonably noisy.

(Our fridge is quiet, for what it’s worth.)

Re: Samsung Electronics cultural issues causing disasters in foundry, LSI, DRAM

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Post by fomine3 »

mschuster91 wrote: post #4

Samsung losing out to Mediatek is pretty hilarious on its own, given that Mediatek was once known for ultra-cheap, piss poor performing crap [1] and copyright issues [2]. Back some years when I had one of the first CAT rugged phones, which was based on Mediatek, I happened to look at a kernel code dump from them on Github and had I known back then what I know today I could have easily netted me some decent payout for…

MediaTek Dimensity 9000 uses TSMC 4nm process that is significantly superior than Samsung 4nm/5nm that Qualcomm/Samsung uses. Since everyone except Apple uses Cortex core, it can't lose for perf/watt on CPU. Maybe MediaTek's highend SoC won't be sold much so they can use TSMC process.

Re: Samsung Electronics cultural issues causing disasters in foundry, LSI, DRAM

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Post by jason-phillips »

noirbot wrote: post #59
jason-phillips wrote: post #32

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We worked hard and we worked well together. We did whatever it took to succeed. Sometimes that meant working 20 hours days on some global supply chain project. I worked with a lot of really great people and a lot of terrific engineers. Best users I've ever had.

Given what I know about Samsung in Austin, I'm pretty sure you're not paying nearly enough to justify anything close to 20 hours a day. Just because you work with "great people" on "a global supply chain project" doesn't sound like anywhere I'd ever want to work, and it seems like the attrition numbers I've seen agree with that.

> doesn't sound like anywhere I'd ever want to work

What if I threw in a brisket from Franklin's and told you I would be your pal

Re: Samsung Electronics cultural issues causing disasters in foundry, LSI, DRAM

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Post by PolygonSheep »

lizardactivist wrote: post #29
chevman wrote: post #5

There is a Facebook group with 100k+ members dedicated solely to the poor engineering, design, and fabrication of their refrigerators - [SAMSUNG REFRIGERATOR RECALL U.S.A. NOW] - https://www.facebook.com/groups/1520337151601316/

99% of which most likely don't even own one, and also partake in the other peculiar groups spreading the notion that dirty, foreign brands are dangerous and unreliable.

How can you tell if they own one or not and, if so, what their motives are?

Genuinely curious here how you were not only able to verify Samsung refrigerator ownership status for 100K people on Facebook but also that 99% of them were slandering Samsung's good name purely for racist/nationalist reasons.

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Post by cameronh90 »

rootusrootus wrote: post #36
lizardactivist wrote: post #29

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99% of which most likely don't even own one, and also partake in the other peculiar groups spreading the notion that dirty, foreign brands are dangerous and unreliable.

I have a Samsung fridge. It singlehandedly convinced me never to buy another Samsung appliance. The reputation is legit.

I have had a Samsung TV, phone and washing machine. All of them were awful and unreliable despite winning wonderful praise from reviewers. I can't help but feel they were reviewing a different device to me.

Nowadays it's a running joke among my friends about how much I advocate against buying any Samsung devices to anyone who will listen. I've probably saved 5 people from buying a Samsung TV - instead convincing them to get one of LGs excellent TVs.

Re: Samsung Electronics cultural issues causing disasters in foundry, LSI, DRAM

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Post by RachelF »

Avoid their SSD's now too. With the the 980 PRO, Samsung has just changed the components but kept the same model number.

Samsung have removed the Elpis controller from the 980 PRO SSD and replaced it with an unknown one.

Take a look here for what's changed on the 980 PRO: https://i.imgur.com/YJShyLR.jpg

Re: Samsung Electronics cultural issues causing disasters in foundry, LSI, DRAM

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Post by pm90 »

pixelatedindex wrote: post #9

The work culture at Samsung being toxic is something I have some familiarity with, as I used to know some folks who were working there. It’s a very top down company and the lower tier folks aren’t necessarily encouraged to question things, but more of a “do as I say”. The legislation aspect is really concerning but not surprising as chaebols have an iron grip on the Korean economy. Tough times for Samsung, but in a l…

> It’s a very top down company and the lower tier folks aren’t necessarily encouraged to question things, but more of a “do as I say”.

Asking as someone who has 0 experience with either, but this is how I’ve heard Apple works too? If so, why is Apple doing well while Samsung is not?

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