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Re: The chicken you are eating has increased 364% in size over the last 50 years

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Post by BiteCode_dev »

rayiner wrote: post #59
BiteCode_dev wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm betting they are probably less nutritious too.

People who talk about whether food is “nutritious” are like anti-vaxxers. There’s no scientific basis to these ideas, just feels.

Yet you don't provide any evidence for your bold, asbolutist, and franckly, insulting, claim. Hence I'd say this very form of comment is closer to the proverbial facebook mum style, than somebody suggesting "I'm betting".

But allow me to actually provide some hints that, while not able to remove all doubt about the matter, nevertheless show such a theory is not an undeserving question, nor born from an irrational mind:

https://journals.ashs.org/downloadpdf/journals/hortsci/44/1/...

Re: The chicken you are eating has increased 364% in size over the last 50 years

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Post by spaceheater »

bryanlarsen wrote: post #66
emerongi wrote: post #31

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Similar story with strawberries. The huge ones are quite bland, whereas the small ones pack a punch. I imagine it's mostly the water content that makes them bigger, but at the same time it dilutes the taste. Same for tomatoes as well. Homegrown tomatoes have a strong taste, whereas store-bought ones are quite weak in taste (as well as weirdly plastic). Pretty much anything that is produced for profits will be optimiz…

Strawberries; I used to think that, but it's only true for me locally. The important thing for delicious strawberries is that you pick them ripe. So locally the only tasty strawberries you get are small and in season, because that's local. However if you are in a place more suited for strawberries you can find large tasty strawberries picked ripe. Strawberries in a super market are picked green and ripen in transit.…

obligatory: £350 Strawberry https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=895DfGuoqvU

Re: The chicken you are eating has increased 364% in size over the last 50 years

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Post by MathCodeLove »

rayiner wrote: post #59
BiteCode_dev wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm betting they are probably less nutritious too.

People who talk about whether food is “nutritious” are like anti-vaxxers. There’s no scientific basis to these ideas, just feels.

What are you trying to say here? That nutrition doesn't exist? It's anti-science to state that an apple has more nutritional value than a potato chip?

Specifically what the parent is referencing is the density of nutrients per unit of meat. Are you saying that all meat is uniform in nutrient density?

I'm genuinely flabbergasted by your supremely odd take on this situation.

Re: The chicken you are eating has increased 364% in size over the last 50 years

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Post by elvis10ten »

belorn wrote: post #54
elvis10ten wrote: post #44

> “ Chicken should be so good in itself that it is an absolute delight to eat as a perfectly plain, butter roast, saute or grill.” I said something like this to my ”modern” friends, they laughed at me for having low standard. It was something my dad used to say: “It takes effort to make chicken tastes bad.” We raised chicken via the natural long process. I miss that taste so much and it’s hard to explain to people. N…

In small scale you are 100% right. Leave them to their natural behavior and they are perfectly able to eat the right amount of grass, insects and small rodents that their egg and meat will taste great (some support grains is needed). Force them to eat only the cheapest animal feed and pick breeds that wouldn't survive in the wild, and the resulting egg and meat will have a distinct worse taste. For small scale, chick…

You are right, forgot to add that. We only did this at a small scale (I.e: mostly for our own consumption).

Re: The chicken you are eating has increased 364% in size over the last 50 years

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Post by rayiner »

MathCodeLove wrote: post #73
rayiner wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People who talk about whether food is “nutritious” are like anti-vaxxers. There’s no scientific basis to these ideas, just feels.

What are you trying to say here? That nutrition doesn't exist? It's anti-science to state that an apple has more nutritional value than a potato chip? Specifically what the parent is referencing is the density of nutrients per unit of meat. Are you saying that all meat is uniform in nutrient density? I'm genuinely flabbergasted by your supremely odd take on this situation.

What “nutrients” are you talking about? Vague unspecific references to “nutrients” is a red flag that you’re talking to an anti-vax type.

Re: The chicken you are eating has increased 364% in size over the last 50 years

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Post by Consultant32452 »

hackernewds wrote: post #42
Loic wrote: post #13

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"flavorless" is exactly what the industry wants. This allows easy control of the taste during processing. This is why the chicken "wings" you buy in your well-knownfast food restaurant taste the same everywhere and every single day of the year.

That seems backwards and hard to believe. They could use the same chickens and would need less sauce frying and spice

It's important that the chicken breast sandwich from McDonald's has exactly the same taste and texture whether you get it from San Francisco or Toronto. Might not be important to you, but it's important to McDonald's.

Re: The chicken you are eating has increased 364% in size over the last 50 years

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Post by Hammershaft »

fayten wrote: post #64
emerongi wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Similar story with strawberries. The huge ones are quite bland, whereas the small ones pack a punch. I imagine it's mostly the water content that makes them bigger, but at the same time it dilutes the taste. Same for tomatoes as well. Homegrown tomatoes have a strong taste, whereas store-bought ones are quite weak in taste (as well as weirdly plastic). Pretty much anything that is produced for profits will be optimiz…

As far as I am aware the water content reducing flavor is a myth. For fruits and vegtables it comes down to ripening and temperature control. The majority of fruit we purchase from the super market is picked far before it's rip and is either sitting in storage/transport long enough to get acceptable flavor, gassed with certain hormones to speed up rippening before final arrival, or just straight up dyed. Oranges from…

I wonder why companies don't sell smaller quantities of pricier variants of fully ripened fruit then.

Re: The chicken you are eating has increased 364% in size over the last 50 years

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Post by toast0 »

hackernewds wrote: post #39
nwah1 wrote: post #24

Also chicken meat generally has high estrogen levels in the US, which might promote cancer. https://ascopubs.org/doi/abs/10.1200/jco.2010.28.15_suppl.15...

Chicken meat in the West also tastes a lot more blander than Asian "boiler" chicken. Try McDonald's nuggets in Brazil or the Middle east or India. Doesn't need as much frying or saucing - much of which is needed for having any decent flavor and leads to obesity

McDonald's in the US only uses white meat for chicken nuggets, which is part of why they're not as tasty anymore. I don't know if that's gone global yet, but when I was in India ten years ago, it certainly wasn't and I had some really tasty McNuggets.
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