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Re: A Census of Minecraft Servers

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Post by hunterb123 »

der_rod wrote: post #70
hunterb123 wrote: post #60

The subtle advertising: > This is probably thanks to cheap hosting offerings from companies like Hetzner (insert link). Conflicts with their own data: - OVH 24,417 - QuadraNet 9,927 - GPORTAL 9,339 - GMO Internet 5,466 - Hetzner 5,327 For those not in the game server hosting scene, it's because OVH offers a robust DDOS system for free for their servers. The price is not much different either. OVH is by far the leader…

You have to take the quote in context: > However, Germany ends up taking the prize for most Minecraft servers per capita, with a whopping four servers for every 10,000 people. This is probably thanks to cheap hosting offerings from companies like Hetzner. Hetzner is a German company, OVH is not. And while OVH has a presence in Germany, if we run this query on Shodan: https://www.shodan.io/search?query=product%3A%22Mi…

> Hetzner is a German company, OVH is not.

> That being said, GPortal is also a German company and #3 overall,

Gportal (Ociris GmbH) is #1 in Germany, by far. 8,291 (24.2%) vs 3,380 (9.8%)

> but they're a dedicated provider of game servers, rather than commodity servers.

Why does that matter? The statement is about Minecraft servers and why Germany is popular.

Seems if you were going to name drop one to support that reasoning you'd use the most popular one.

Heztner is neither the leading Germany Minecraft provider, nor the leading overall provider, both by a wide margin.

I appreciate you joining HN to comment and clear that up though.

Re: A Census of Minecraft Servers

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Post by DilanTendor71 »

It depends on what server you want to play. It is not hard to download a pirated version of Minecraft and play it without paying. But, if you do it, you won't have access to most online servers available on the internet. In my opinion, the best thing to do is to buy it. After that, you can download any server you want from https://servers-minecraft.net/minecraft-bedwars-servers . Check it out by yourself. I am sure you won't be disappointed about it. Also, you can build your server here.

Re: A Census of Minecraft Servers

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Post by agravier »

Tepix wrote: post #34
eternityforest wrote: post #33

What's up with MineTest? Seems like the only issue is some of the mods aren't maintained, but other than that, it looks like there's some real potential. It would be interesting to see a similar census, and if it's gaining any ground.

I tried it a while ago and unfortunately immediately ran into some rather serious bugs.

My kids have been using it on a regular basis for a couple of years now, the core engine is stable and I didn't find any bug, and there are nice games and non-buggy mods.

Re: A Census of Minecraft Servers

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Post by der_rod »

hunterb123 wrote: post #71
der_rod wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have to take the quote in context: > However, Germany ends up taking the prize for most Minecraft servers per capita, with a whopping four servers for every 10,000 people. This is probably thanks to cheap hosting offerings from companies like Hetzner. Hetzner is a German company, OVH is not. And while OVH has a presence in Germany, if we run this query on Shodan: https://www.shodan.io/search?query=product%3A%22Mi…

> Hetzner is a German company, OVH is not. > That being said, GPortal is also a German company and #3 overall, Gportal (Ociris GmbH) is #1 in Germany, by far. 8,291 (24.2%) vs 3,380 (9.8%) > but they're a dedicated provider of game servers, rather than commodity servers. Why does that matter? The statement is about Minecraft servers and why Germany is popular. Seems if you were going to name drop one to support that…

Why they chose that example I can only speculate, perhaps it was the first name they recognised and just used as an example because they were familiar with it?

I just really didn't like the assertion that this was supposed to be some sort of advert, rather than an arbitrary pick. It certainly isn't an affiliate link or anything.

Re: A Census of Minecraft Servers

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Post by hunterb123 »

der_rod wrote: post #74
hunterb123 wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Hetzner is a German company, OVH is not. > That being said, GPortal is also a German company and #3 overall, Gportal (Ociris GmbH) is #1 in Germany, by far. 8,291 (24.2%) vs 3,380 (9.8%) > but they're a dedicated provider of game servers, rather than commodity servers. Why does that matter? The statement is about Minecraft servers and why Germany is popular. Seems if you were going to name drop one to support that…

Why they chose that example I can only speculate, perhaps it was the first name they recognised and just used as an example because they were familiar with it? I just really didn't like the assertion that this was supposed to be some sort of advert, rather than an arbitrary pick. It certainly isn't an affiliate link or anything.

> I just really didn't like the assertion that this was supposed to be some sort of advert, rather than an arbitrary pick. It certainly isn't an affiliate link or anything.

Feel free to speculate one way or another, I'll do the same based on the data and reasoning provided.

You don't need an affiliate link to advertise btw, referer headers do just fine.

I really wasn't slamming them for advertising, just noting it was and that it didn't fit their reasoning as to why they were plugging them.

If you feel it was an arbitrary selection, that's fine. I was just expanding on the statement as to why it doesn't fit the data. I assume you concede to that right?

Re: A Census of Minecraft Servers

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Post by eternityforest »

agravier wrote: post #73
Tepix wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I tried it a while ago and unfortunately immediately ran into some rather serious bugs.

My kids have been using it on a regular basis for a couple of years now, the core engine is stable and I didn't find any bug, and there are nice games and non-buggy mods.

I briefly played with it on a Pi4 just to see what the fuss is about(Partly because I wanted to figure out why they chose to include proprietary minecraft instead since its supposed to be hacker friendly).

Seems fine except there are no creepers in in any of the apt-gettable mods I can find, so that might get in the way of preinstalled it fully ready to play.

I sure do admire the patience it takes to build anything in either. It almost seems like a good fit for a history themed game that teaches how hard things were to bootstrap, a la Oregon Trail almost.

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