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Re: Video games are kinda boring

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Post by koof »

x3iv130f wrote: post #29
koof wrote: post #19

I've carried around a certain kind of disappointment about video games ever since I was a kid. I knew I really liked them as a concept, but few stuck and I liked reading game magazines more. I started playing TTRPGs like D&D with some friends about a year and a half ago. They feel closer to the ideal of what my brain wants from at least some kinds of games. Somewhere between TTRPGs, reading (esp. fiction), and embrac…

There is a lot more to TTRPGs besides D&D. I play lighter and more narratively focused games where the focus is collaboratively creating worlds and stories. Lasers and Feelings has been the biggest hit around my table but I also have a reoccuring game of Dungeon World every other week. In just ten to fifteen minutes I can throw any random group of friends into a scenario that feels like a tv show.

For sure. We started with Cyberpunk RED actually, but we went to D&D simply because of how much prewritten stuff was out there. We've done a few small jaunts into other systems (mostly PTBA ones) in the meantime too. I've also been meaning to play Ironsworn solo (one day...).

Luckily for me, my favorite part of RPGs so far has been "meaningful stuff can happen anywhere and the gears of this world turn no matter where we put the camera (if a tree falls in the woods & no one is there to hear it, it still absolutely makes a sound)" which feels system agnostic.

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Post by thecsw »

throwaway17_17 wrote: post #41
vagab0nd wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually, this reads like someone who watches Marvel movies over and over for thousands of hours. Games to me are like books. I play them once, and move on. Occasionally I find a great game, and after a few years I might pick it back up and re-play it.

I in no way mean this as a negative, but I find it amazing that people like you exist. Despite owning over 10,000 games (due to a digital hoarding compulsion) I think I have played no more than 30, 45 at the absolute most, games in the last 15 years. I seem to be the exact opposite of you, in that I play a game for huge amounts of hours and just never try another unless I truly feel compelled to play it. I have multi…

Isn't that amazing? We have the freedom to pick and choose whatever playing (or non-playing) style fits our heart and rocks our boat!

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Post by throwaway675309 »

slackfan wrote: post #48
karpierz wrote: post #22

This reads like someone who only watches Marvel movies complaining about how they've lost interest in movies because they all feel the same. If you don't branch out and expand beyond the bog-standard, yeah, eventually it'll all feel the same. Edit: Some recommendations below. These aren't even wild experimental/arthouse games, just slightly more creative. - Outer Wilds - Disco Elysium - Rhythm Doctor - Return of the…

I still rather enjoy videogames in my advanced age, and yet here I find that your list is the equivalent of white toast.

Can you elaborate what you mean by that? From this list there's a pretty wide variety of genres and exploratory styles of games. Maybe instead of shitting on somebody else's list of recommendations, you should put up or shut up yourself.

White toast? You sound like one of those guys who pays $15 for "avocado toast".

And just to make sure this post is not entirely a roasting session, I personally would put Ori ahead of hollow knight, but they are both great games.

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Post by rilezg »

This reminded me of the youtube video 'What Games Are Like For Someone Who Doesn't Play Games', specifically the section 'Thinking Games Would Be Cooler' (begins at 14:43):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ax7f3JZJHSw

I think games both appeal and do not appeal (to different people, or the same person at different times in life, respectively) because of the limitations of what the game allows you to do. It can be empowering to feel like you understand the world of the game you are playing, or disempowering to have to follow the arbitrary rules created by the developer.

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Post by popcube »

caslon wrote: post #14
tomatowurst wrote: post #10

I really do not like these type of articles. I did X, Y, Z and therefore it is justified enough for me to make overreaching claims. Video games are still very fun and very profitable for the rest of us. Wish I could mute HN accounts like I mute ppl on twitter, not enough to signal an explicit exclusion but enough for me to ignore whatever they have to say in the future because of misalignment of values in the present…

It didn't claim that video games weren't fun or profitable, and the author even admitted they'd had fun with them. It just claimed that the current status quo of them has gotten kinda stale for them. Video games being stagnant isn't exactly a new idea; we've more or less been stuck with the same interfaces with slight improvements for twenty years now. The author just seems burnt out.

If we comparing video games to the games in real world（basketball, baseball football... et.al.) the format he do not like anymore: two team fight to eachother is the very basic and old format. I guess this type of game will exist in far future.

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Post by jhanschoo »

An analogy as to I feel about this article is turning on a random cable channel and then concluding that everything on TV is boring. But occasionally you get games that are pretty outstanding.

Let's also not forget that boring TV programs and boring games serve a purpose; sometimes you want to do something mindless and boring. Both these roles have broad mainstream appeal, but note of course that there is (or seems to me to be) an overrepresented enthusiast audience that wants tough gameplay that require investment and perseverance to complete.

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Post by strken »

Aerroon wrote: post #36
strken wrote: post #7

I used to think I wanted a higher purpose in games, but what I really wanted was a community with some kind of large-scale competition. The MMOFPS Planetside 2 gives me that, but I get the impression you can also get it from Eve, from competitive gaming scenes, from traditional MMOs, or even from older things like MUDs. Friendly competition with and against thousands of other people is like a higher purpose, but it's…

Planetside 2 is probably the one PC game everyone even remotely into gaming should try. The massive battles are pretty much unlike anything else I've experienced in online games. The scale makes it different. It's quite something to be a part of a 40-man platoon doing a Max-crash on a base to retake the points with just a few seconds to spare. Even better when this gives your team the overall victory on the continent…

It manufactures cooperation and friendships on a level unlike any other game I've played. If you join any actively led platoon and you have a microphone, you immediately feel like you're part of something big, and you've got a 50% chance of being recruited by the outfit running it and/or invited to their discord.

My impression of Rust and Tarkov is that they manufacture meaningful competition well, but they don't create friendships as quickly, and they especially don't create friendly rivalries and working relationships between people on the same team.

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Post by tmikaeld »

koof wrote: post #19

I've carried around a certain kind of disappointment about video games ever since I was a kid. I knew I really liked them as a concept, but few stuck and I liked reading game magazines more. I started playing TTRPGs like D&D with some friends about a year and a half ago. They feel closer to the ideal of what my brain wants from at least some kinds of games. Somewhere between TTRPGs, reading (esp. fiction), and embrac…

Have you seen Tilt Five?

https://www.tiltfive.com/

It's board-games, but in augmented reality and multi-player, to give it a "spin".

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