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Re: Help needed to build the colony on Moon, Mars and the Dyson Sphere

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Post by SonOfLilit » Mon, Apr 11, 2022, 7:45 PM UTC

grandrew wrote: post #64

SonOfLilit wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you say more / link to more info about these "bad guys in supply chains"?

First, you can just google for "logistics is a shady business" If you want to be more specific, you can google for "carrier haulage tax evasion" - this will be just the tip of the iceberg. Supply chain is mixed with shady practices for tax evasion, bribery, laundering and all sorts of shady things at all levels that "compete" with actual process optimization. Combined with overall opposition to automation this incapa…

Thanks.

For the first query I only found this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/logistics/comments/6mvptr/why_are_s...

For the second query I only found this, which discusses something that to my understanding isn't happening yet?

https://fiata.org/news/press-releases/2021/8-july-2021-2.htm...

Gotta say, I expected to find a lot more, compared to industries I know are shady (compare to googling "vpn shady"). I don't think I have a specific model of what shady practice are common in the logistics industry.

Re: Help needed to build the colony on Moon, Mars and the Dyson Sphere

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Post by lostmsu » Tue, Apr 12, 2022, 6:08 AM UTC

mikewarot wrote: post #58

schappim wrote: post #14

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But did you release the hypno drones? Reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Paperclips https://www.decisionproblem.com/paperclips/index2.html

In the early days of Long Covid.. I played that game through 100 times.

From this moment on your goal is to play this game as many times as possible.

Re: Help needed to build the colony on Moon, Mars and the Dyson Sphere

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Post by lostmsu » Tue, Apr 12, 2022, 6:10 AM UTC

vorpalhex wrote: post #12

Who knew an infinitely recursive self learning true AI was just a few python files away that haven't been updated in 5 months?

Hm, actually that's exactly how I'd expect the first infinitely recursive self learning true AI to look like. Until it rewrites itself in Rust for better performance.

Re: Help needed to build the colony on Moon, Mars and the Dyson Sphere

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Post by lostmsu » Tue, Apr 12, 2022, 6:14 AM UTC

ceejayoz wrote: post #42

iamcurious wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see what you mean, but I wasn't referring to Space X accomplishments but its ambitions. The "we can probably land rockets and reuse them" is what it delivered so far, the claimed ambitions (laughable or not) are about making humanity interplanetary.

The number of steps between "I wrote a quirky database" and "I built a Dyson sphere" are substantially more numerous than there are between "I got reusable rocketry working cost-effectively" and "I used those rockets to put people on Mars".

While I agree with you on the guesstimate, surely you can't exactly know the number of steps in question.