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Re: Back to India

#71

Good for you but there’s no real advantage professionally in moving back, but no disadvantage either. Sure you’re saying H1B restricts but does it really? Have you truly explored all immigration options? Or did you just balk at all the extra beauracracy and said I’ll go back to india? Which is fine, but do note the irony of moving to india to avoid bureaucracy lol. Apply and do your GST, run between five different br…

This guy is the Enlightened One. He's seen it all to the core: all the rotten things, everything.

Re: Back to India

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What limitations is the author actually talking about? I don't understand

If you’re on an H1B, you must be employed by a company. If you get fired or quit, you must find a job within a couple of months or leave the country.

In the IT industry though - at this time - that is probably not a huge risk.

Re: Back to India

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the right answer. People who continue to say “expat” will justify it by saying “oh, they don’t plan to stay in the country long term”. But you can’t possibly know what a persons long term plans are just by looking at them. You can’t even tell with certainty if they came from a poor country or a rich one. All you can see is their skin colour. That’s what people base the “expat” tag on. Sincerely, an immigrant.

There are many cases where “expat" are sent to a different country by their company. They are there for a couple of years depending on the projects. I don't see how they can be called immigrant, and they certainly don't see themselves as such.

Brown and black people sent temporarily by their companies are considered immigrants.

White people living in retirement communities in Thailand call themselves and are called expats.

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development-professionals...

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/apr/10/immigr...

Re: Back to India

#74
Fuck the H1b visa. Yes I understand that we have created a huge GC backlog by immigrating here in large numbers but that doesn't mean we should be dragged around like a toy. This is sadly the impression I've formed these days. Our entire lives here revolve around that visa and we could basically be holding on to it for 30 to 50 years before we can get a GC lol. In the meantime, maintaining our driver's licenses, being able to enter/leave the country, being questioned at the airports, having to constantly renew crap, waiting for eons to change employer, staying disconnected from the family are all common things to expect.

To add to this, there are no appointments for Visa Stampings back in the home country because of which many people dropped their travel plans; and USCIS doesn't give a damn about it. Life is more or less crippled at this point. Now, would all this still be outweighed by a First World living quality? In the beginning when I was young I used to think "yes". But I've realized lately that it's a big "no". Days are making me think about my plan to move back out to home country or our peaceful northern neighbor.

Re: Back to India

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A friend of mine sent me a link to this article and said > Yugal Raj Jain. He’ll be fine in India. Indians will understand what my friend meant by that.

I’m not Indian & barely know about the place, but I’m still near certain this is reference to the caste system. Caste system is ungodly fucked. I once had an otherwise super hippy in the US explain to me why the caste system is totally okay because of “centuries of religion” or some weird shit like that. Anybody who advocates for the continuity of the caste system is irredeemable scum in my book. Unfortunately, for m…

You should go visit other countries and talk to more people. He’s a Jain. Jain is not a caste. Not all Jains are filthy rich. In fact, his being Jain has nothing to do with his finances. Having worked in Tesla is more indicative.

Re: Back to India

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post #57

A friend of mine sent me a link to this article and said > Yugal Raj Jain. He’ll be fine in India. Indians will understand what my friend meant by that.

Indian here. I don't understand what your friend meant. Can you please elaborate?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30966521

Re: Back to India

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m not Indian & barely know about the place, but I’m still near certain this is reference to the caste system. Caste system is ungodly fucked. I once had an otherwise super hippy in the US explain to me why the caste system is totally okay because of “centuries of religion” or some weird shit like that. Anybody who advocates for the continuity of the caste system is irredeemable scum in my book. Unfortunately, for m…

You should go visit other countries and talk to more people. He’s a Jain. Jain is not a caste. Not all Jains are filthy rich. In fact, his being Jain has nothing to do with his finances. Having worked in Tesla is more indicative.

This comment is obtuse. Sure, technically Jain is not a caste, but all Jains and Parsees are considered equivalent to Hindu upper castes. No one will decline to drink water offered to them by a Jain. That is something that still happens to Dalits in India today, in urban areas as well.

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It'd benefit the discussion in a forum filled with non-Indians if you explained what he meant. But I assume it's a caste-thing...

It would benefit the non Indians, certainly. And it’d also get me flagged. But what the hell, I’ll say it. OP is an upper caste male. You won’t see many “India is doing great! I’m heading back there!” posts from Indian women or Indian Muslims or Indian Dalits. That’s what I meant. I’m similar to the OP in that I’m an upper caste male as well. The difference between me and him is that I can understand and empathise wi…

Why do you think he is not capable of showing empathy to the people different than him.

Re: Back to India

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There will always be subjective differences between India and the USA and not everything is hunky dory, but there are some things India is IMO better than USA for an Indian expat: 1. Climate: India is definitely sunny and enjoys predictable weather patterns all year round. Climate change might upset the equation, but it is still bright and sunny. 2. Biodiversity: India is 7th largest country with lots of great places…

Except 4 & 5, the first few cannot be said "subjectively better". This is your personal opinion, not the "statistically true" opinion. >Climate Definitely hotter in most (80%) of India, from late February to mid-October. US states enjoys more cloudless sunny weather per annum. >Biodiversity: India is 7th largest country with lots of great places to visit. Mountains, deserts, beaches, jungles, plains [...] US is almos…

I’ll have to nitpick your last point. Unless you’re going to a farmer’s market, the quality of fruit and vegetables in America is abysmal. Watery hard fruit, etc.

You can get the same terrible strawberries all year round if you want though.

I’ve never been to India, but I assume the situation is better, at least based on how people rave about mangoes.

Re: Back to India

#80

As a fellow NSIT alum who came back home as well. Welcome back. It been known for a while, that the best place for an Indian to be an entrepreneur is in India, even if your target market is outside the country. Running the gauntlet of immigration regulations is an entirely unnecessary hurdle if you want to do a startup. Just skip it. To be honest the quality of life isn’t notably different for me. Just stay away from…

Kerala also has support from the local state government for startups. I returned to India in 2015 to startup and an equity free grant from Kerala state government sustained me and my team for a couple of years till we could stand on our own feet using revenue. Of course we also had support from our family (financial and otherwise, which the government grant helped a lot). Plus the cost of living is absurdly low compared to my life in Mountain View, California
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