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The ever-increasing walled-gardeness of Twitter

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Re: The ever-increasing walled-gardeness of Twitter

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Best thing I ever did was install Nitter redirect. Even though Nitter breaks every once in a while, it makes Twitter usable (assuming you don't mind read-only interaction). https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/nitter-redirect/mo... https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/nitter-redire...

I just do it manually:

Replace "twitter.com" with "nitter.net", keeping the rest of the URL the same.

Re: The ever-increasing walled-gardeness of Twitter

#72

I found this statement really bizarre: > Not horribly confusing and overwhelming for people that don’t use it regularly like Reddit, be it the old or the bad design. I've always found Twitter to be horribly confusing. It's mishmash of replies, re-tweets, and completely unrelated other tweets has been there for years and never made any sense to someone who doesn't have an account. I don't have a Reddit account but kno…

Are you serious? It's a very simple thread-based design. Threads are separated by approptiate dividers or whitespace or indentation. I don't get it.

The Twitter UI is a mess.

It’s infuriating me to even try to explain the problem to someone who doesn’t see it.

For example, can you explain to me - without going to try it out first - where exactly to tap (on a phone) to view the comments on a picture post in your home feed?

Re: The ever-increasing walled-gardeness of Twitter

#73

One of the things that has always confused me about twitter is that it seems to be offering a threaded conversation model, yet it tries to "flatten" the conversation and render things in a linear timeline. I've always struggled to understand the full context of the tweet I'm reading (that is, where is this tweet in the full conversation?). Do others also struggle with this? Am I just Doing It Wrong?

I think it’s intentional on Twitter’s part. It’s FOMO: you see a hot take out of context and now your brain ~~wants~~ needs to know what the hell is going on, so you reward Twitter’s algorithm with lots of tasty engagement in your effort to figure out who pissed everyone off.

Yeah, this seems to be the endgame of the whole engagement maximizer craze: If struggling with an app because you can't find the function you're looking for counts as "engagement", then the obvious strategy is to make apps as hard to use as possible.

Re: The ever-increasing walled-gardeness of Twitter

#74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you serious? It's a very simple thread-based design. Threads are separated by approptiate dividers or whitespace or indentation. I don't get it.

The Twitter UI is a mess. It’s infuriating me to even try to explain the problem to someone who doesn’t see it. For example, can you explain to me - without going to try it out first - where exactly to tap (on a phone) to view the comments on a picture post in your home feed?

Can’t you just tap the post (not the picture , but the post).

Re: The ever-increasing walled-gardeness of Twitter

#75
post #69

Best thing I ever did was install Nitter redirect. Even though Nitter breaks every once in a while, it makes Twitter usable (assuming you don't mind read-only interaction). https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/nitter-redirect/mo... https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/nitter-redire...

I just do it manually: Replace "twitter.com" with "nitter.net", keeping the rest of the URL the same.

I was doing it manually too for a while, until I made a bookmarklet, but eventually I got tired of doing that as well. The redirect browser addons also intercept the request before it ever hits Twitter directly.

Re: The ever-increasing walled-gardeness of Twitter

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post #24

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Interestingly, I think login walls are to stop spam. It interests me how many design decisions by youtube, for example, were to stop spam and getting rid of fake views and likes. Not directly for the user's experience.

I'd believe that! It's entirely possible and even likely that they're well intentioned. But they just don't work , because the spam is coming from inside the house.

I don't buy it. You always needed an account in order to post - that's nothing new.

What's new is that Twitter now locks you out just for reading tweets without an account.

Re: The ever-increasing walled-gardeness of Twitter

#77

I found this statement really bizarre: > Not horribly confusing and overwhelming for people that don’t use it regularly like Reddit, be it the old or the bad design. I've always found Twitter to be horribly confusing. It's mishmash of replies, re-tweets, and completely unrelated other tweets has been there for years and never made any sense to someone who doesn't have an account. I don't have a Reddit account but kno…

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Re: The ever-increasing walled-gardeness of Twitter

#78

I found this statement really bizarre: > Not horribly confusing and overwhelming for people that don’t use it regularly like Reddit, be it the old or the bad design. I've always found Twitter to be horribly confusing. It's mishmash of replies, re-tweets, and completely unrelated other tweets has been there for years and never made any sense to someone who doesn't have an account. I don't have a Reddit account but kno…

Glad it's not just me. It's especially infuriating when clicking a specifc tweet to see replies, scrolling down, then seeing god knows what random mess. Oops, you had to click the tiny 'see more replies' text to see more relevant replies, we're just showing you random unrelated tweets. Who designs such a mess and why...

Someone whose paycheck comes from keeping you on that mess and “engaged” as long as possible.

Re: The ever-increasing walled-gardeness of Twitter

#79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you serious? It's a very simple thread-based design. Threads are separated by approptiate dividers or whitespace or indentation. I don't get it.

The Twitter UI is a mess. It’s infuriating me to even try to explain the problem to someone who doesn’t see it. For example, can you explain to me - without going to try it out first - where exactly to tap (on a phone) to view the comments on a picture post in your home feed?

It's messy but as a whole it's not that complicated because the basic model is simple. There's one thing - tweets - and various ways they are listed or threaded.

Re: The ever-increasing walled-gardeness of Twitter

#80

I found this statement really bizarre: > Not horribly confusing and overwhelming for people that don’t use it regularly like Reddit, be it the old or the bad design. I've always found Twitter to be horribly confusing. It's mishmash of replies, re-tweets, and completely unrelated other tweets has been there for years and never made any sense to someone who doesn't have an account. I don't have a Reddit account but kno…

Glad it's not just me. It's especially infuriating when clicking a specifc tweet to see replies, scrolling down, then seeing god knows what random mess. Oops, you had to click the tiny 'see more replies' text to see more relevant replies, we're just showing you random unrelated tweets. Who designs such a mess and why...

Hum... I never saw that "see more replies" link. That's probably why people talk about replies here that I never see on Twitter.

But yeah, I only go there when I get a link to something specific anyway.

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