Due to failure in the IT system, it is not possible to run any trains today

Post by skeeter2020 » Mon, Apr 04, 2022, 2:18 AM UTC

postingposts wrote: post #46

miggol wrote: post #14

My curiosity is killing me as to what exactly went wrong. And as someone living in The Netherlands I'm also kind of mad at the apparent fragility of this huge chunk of our infrastructure. If this had happened on a work day, it would have been a real national emergency, rather than just a huge national inconvenience. I would appreciate one of those post-outage "what happened" reports like with the AWS and Facebook out…

My very good guess is that you had a database failure caused by a crypto virus. They will not wish to announce that this was the root cause until A. A plan of action to avoid a future infection can be enumerated. B. They can be certain they will restore the functionality of the trains. The other part of my guess is that they have a SQL db which is stored on /likely/ a windows server instance. I’d even surmise that th…

Post by tjr225 » Mon, Apr 04, 2022, 2:28 AM UTC

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #37

tjr225 wrote: post #28

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Physical infrastructure can be fragile/fail catastrophically, as well. I recall starting a job near Seattle, 40 miles from my home in Olympia, WA and a passenger train derailed onto the highway killing a few people and backing up traffic for days. That was not a pleasant first day! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Washington_train_derailme...

I assume, however, that this didn't ground every single train in the state!

Post by bourgeoismedia » Mon, Apr 04, 2022, 2:32 AM UTC

snorkledoodle wrote: post #54

flak48 wrote: post #33

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Most countries (even non EU ones) allow its citizens residing in foreign countries to vote in national elections at its embassies. So Hungarians residing in Netherlands could have been able to vote at Hungarian embassies/consulates in Netherlands (if they made it to the embassy).

Sometimes even local stuff. U.S. states, our provincial government level, have processes in place to account for Americans living abroad to vote in state and local elections. It’s guaranteed by law, I think. Our states handle all voting on behalf of the federal government anyway (registration, voting day operations, counts, all often under the misleadingly named office of a Secretary of State), so it’s a natural cons…

Post by usr1106 » Mon, Apr 04, 2022, 2:34 AM UTC

boomboomsubban wrote: post #51

mardifoufs wrote: post #31

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Were the elections illegitimate ? I'm a complete outsider to hungarian politics so I'm not sure if this is hyperbole... but talking about how a dictatorship has been reelected again doesn't make sense to me. Unless elections in Hungary are just theather, and results are just faked like in Syria for example.

It's a relatively free election, there's a strong incumbent bias that undoubtedly helps him win but there's no evidence the entire thing is rigged. Dictators can be popular, the best example is Napoleon.

Post by usr1106 » Mon, Apr 04, 2022, 2:48 AM UTC

jrockway wrote: post #47

amelius wrote: post #5

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Why "unsafe"? Isn't safety supposed to be handled at a different abstraction level (in hardware)?

It sounds like it was a crew scheduling issue. So if you implement some manual replacement for the automated system, it's possible that train crews will "time out" before they reach the destination, stranding passengers in the middle of nowhere. Or, will make a tired crew operate the trains, and tired people aren't very good at safety sensitive tasks. There was an incident a few years ago where a LIRR track crew memb…