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Unbundling Airbnb

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Re: Unbundling Airbnb

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Just point out one example of this that I think has been very successful, and that's MisterBnB for gay travelers. I think a lot of straight folks don't understand the mental calculus that goes through a gay person's mind when they travel. I'm at the stage of my life where when I go on vacation, I want to relax and feel at ease. Why would I spend money to go someplace where I may feel unwelcome, or worse, unsafe? For…

Is that the reason for the LBTQ+ friendly tag you can add in google maps?

Re: Unbundling Airbnb

#72

Just point out one example of this that I think has been very successful, and that's MisterBnB for gay travelers. I think a lot of straight folks don't understand the mental calculus that goes through a gay person's mind when they travel. I'm at the stage of my life where when I go on vacation, I want to relax and feel at ease. Why would I spend money to go someplace where I may feel unwelcome, or worse, unsafe? For…

And I think it's important to say that even if it's a 1% chance, that bad experience can be terrible. Not only are you suddenly stuck somewhere without a place to stay, but you're stuck in annoying situation because of who you are. So you've got this frustrating situation of scrambling to try to find somewhere else to stay, and you also get to feel bad about who you are. You can tell yourself they're bigots and it's not your fault all day long, but the sting of rejection is always there.

I think that's the thing that a lot of (not all) average white straight able-bodied cis-gendered people dismiss. Every slight, every rejection, even if it's not blatant it's in your head: I'm being treated differently not because of what I say or do, but because of who I am. On a good day you might forget for a little while, but you let your guard down for a little and there it is again. It's inescapable and you have to build resiliency in every aspect of your life to not get crushed by it.

Re: Unbundling Airbnb

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or you can up-bundle airbnb. I would like to be able to pick "2 years in " as a package that includes everything from home to food/gym/car etc

There’s sabbatical homes[1] which does that. Say someone lives abroad for a year, and doesn’t want to go through all the hassle of moving out all of the furniture or parking their car in a safe place for an entire year just to rent it for that time. And the same for the person who’ll be renting, they might be in a similar position, just reversed.

[1] https://www.sabbaticalhomes.com/

Re: Unbundling Airbnb

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post #18

Every time I travel, I spend insane amounts of time browsing AirBnB to find a suitable place. For example, I miss a "good table" option on AirBnB. I have to manually discard over 90% of the listings after looking at the images because there is no table suitable for work. That is so time-consuming. It's not that I want to work at home all the time, but still I need a proper table to put my laptop on. A proper chair an…

> I often wonder if one could build a business by creating a site that lists a small subset of AirBnBs that are manually vetted like this

A couple questions:

Why wouldn't Airbnb build this vetting process as a feature of their service if/when you're successful?

Once you've reached scale, what would make your service more valuable than Airbnb's attempt at copying it?

Re: Unbundling Airbnb

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post #18

Every time I travel, I spend insane amounts of time browsing AirBnB to find a suitable place. For example, I miss a "good table" option on AirBnB. I have to manually discard over 90% of the listings after looking at the images because there is no table suitable for work. That is so time-consuming. It's not that I want to work at home all the time, but still I need a proper table to put my laptop on. A proper chair an…

The most annoying things for me are:

1. If I set a filter, use it! As it is, it will show results matching filters first, but then also shows those that don't, and it's not obvious enough

2. When hosts have claimed to have amenities they don't have, and when hosts don't properly set what amenities they do have - makes it difficult to use filters to find what you actually want

Re: Unbundling Airbnb

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post #18

Every time I travel, I spend insane amounts of time browsing AirBnB to find a suitable place. For example, I miss a "good table" option on AirBnB. I have to manually discard over 90% of the listings after looking at the images because there is no table suitable for work. That is so time-consuming. It's not that I want to work at home all the time, but still I need a proper table to put my laptop on. A proper chair an…

> Hosts can remove bad reviews. That part isn't true. Airbnb doesn't allow hosts to remove negative reviews. I used to Airbnb my place, which was well reviewed. I had one negative review from a problematic guest that I felt was unfair, and when I contacted Airbnb to have it reviewed, they were very explicit about not removing reviews regardless of the situation.

As a counterexample, I've had the only bad review I've ever left removed after a couple of days. I don't know how frequent it is, but it made me lose a lot of trust towards Airbnb.

Re: Unbundling Airbnb

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post #59
post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hotels have solved this problem. Each brand more or less offers the same quality across the US. You only need to see a few photos to know what options you have. Most of the rooms are the same design, same furniture. And its common for them to have desks and computer chairs. Consistency. Why are you still using airbnb?

Because for the same quality, hotels are easily 3x the price. Consistently.

This has not been consistently true for me. Maybe for long-term stays (week+), but certainly not for for a day or two after adding in all of the cleaning fees, etc.

Re: Unbundling Airbnb

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post #75
post #18

Every time I travel, I spend insane amounts of time browsing AirBnB to find a suitable place. For example, I miss a "good table" option on AirBnB. I have to manually discard over 90% of the listings after looking at the images because there is no table suitable for work. That is so time-consuming. It's not that I want to work at home all the time, but still I need a proper table to put my laptop on. A proper chair an…

The most annoying things for me are: 1. If I set a filter, use it ! As it is, it will show results matching filters first, but then also shows those that don't , and it's not obvious enough 2. When hosts have claimed to have amenities they don't have, and when hosts don't properly set what amenities they do have - makes it difficult to use filters to find what you actually want

The filters thing is a general problem with search because it's really difficult to distinguish between:

1. X is a must-have; and

2. X, Y and Z are all on my wish list so I want to see the most matches first.

Even Google is kind of awkward with this. It used to be you could add + to a term (before the Google+ boondoggle). Now you have to quote things.

Other sites will do so for specific criteria. Take a real estate portal: the bedroom numbers will be absolute but it may include surrounding areas to what you specify. Or there may be an option to turn that off.

It is frustrating but I can see why sites err on the side of caution by treating it as a ranking suggestion vs a hard requirement.

Re: Unbundling Airbnb

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post #56
post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hotels have solved this problem. Each brand more or less offers the same quality across the US. You only need to see a few photos to know what options you have. Most of the rooms are the same design, same furniture. And its common for them to have desks and computer chairs. Consistency. Why are you still using airbnb?

Can you link to an example? The type of standardized hotel room you describe sounds like the small rooms that are made to sleep during the night and leave during the day. Not for "living" in a foreign city.

Homewood Suites is designed to accommodate longer term guests. I spent around 2 months in one years ago - full kitchen, separate living room and bedroom. Laundry onsite.

I believe Candlewood Suites is the same, but less "upscale."

Re: Unbundling Airbnb

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post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because for the same quality, hotels are easily 3x the price. Consistently.

This has not been consistently true for me. Maybe for long-term stays (week+), but certainly not for for a day or two after adding in all of the cleaning fees, etc.

It may be true if you have a large family and stay for a while. A 4-5 bedroom house would be a lot cheaper (and more convenient) than 4-5 hotel rooms.

Of course, large families are the exception not the rule nowadays.

Personally I don’t have a large family and the inconsistently with Airbnb means we don’t use it often at all.

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